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  • Originally posted by Partial
    Originally posted by cpk1994
    Originally posted by Partial
    All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
    DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
    I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

    Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

    I rest my case.
    Did the Texans have the ball on their own 2 yard line with 2 minutes to go in the 4th Quarter?

    I rest my case.

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    • Originally posted by Partial
      Originally posted by cpk1994
      Originally posted by Partial
      All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
      DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
      I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

      Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

      I rest my case.
      Don't rest, because you forgot to address the small part about how the defense LOST THE GAME at the end. The offense did not give up any yards on that final Houston drive, and did not give up the 3 points that resulted from it.

      Look at the game from a defensive point of view for once P. The object is not to outscore your opponent, rather it is to keep your opponent from scoring as many points as you. It is a defensive game. 21 points wins the game if your opponent only scores 20. I think if you look at it that way, things will make more sense.
      Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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      • Originally posted by Gunakor
        Originally posted by Partial
        Originally posted by cpk1994
        Originally posted by Partial
        All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
        DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
        I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

        Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

        I rest my case.
        Don't rest, because you forgot to address the small part about how the defense LOST THE GAME at the end. The offense did not give up any yards on that final Houston drive, and did not give up the 3 points that resulted from it.

        Look at the game from a defensive point of view for once P. The object is not to outscore your opponent, rather it is to keep your opponent from scoring as many points as you. It is a defensive game. 21 points wins the game if your opponent only scores 20. I think if you look at it that way, things will make more sense.
        Let's not even bother with him anymore. Its obvious that he will blame ARod for everything and anything. I mean the defense could give up 1000 yards while ARod could pass for 500 and 4 TDS but Partial would blame ARod for the loss becuase he threw one pick. As Ron White said, "You can't fix stupid".

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        • Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Partial
          Originally posted by cpk1994
          Originally posted by Partial
          All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
          DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
          I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

          Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

          I rest my case.
          Did the Texans have the ball on their own 2 yard line with 2 minutes to go in the 4th Quarter?

          I rest my case.
          The defense failed, no doubt about it. The point is the offense failed, too, and most importantly, failed first. That offensive failure takes the wind out of their proverbial sail. Seriously, is it that hard of a concept to grasp?

          Can we all agree that this is the logical explanation?

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          • Originally posted by Gunakor
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by cpk1994
            Originally posted by Partial
            All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
            DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
            I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

            Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

            I rest my case.
            Don't rest, because you forgot to address the small part about how the defense LOST THE GAME at the end. The offense did not give up any yards on that final Houston drive, and did not give up the 3 points that resulted from it.

            Look at the game from a defensive point of view for once P. The object is not to outscore your opponent, rather it is to keep your opponent from scoring as many points as you. It is a defensive game. 21 points wins the game if your opponent only scores 20. I think if you look at it that way, things will make more sense.
            24 points is far from outlandish, especially with the turnover, and the overall offensive ineptness. Before the final kick, they gave up three TDs to a dangerous offense. I don't think that is horrible..

            CPK, you have failed to acknowledge that any of the offensive whoas could have fallen on the QB position all season long. From reading your posts, it's evident that you think A-Rod is one of the top players at his position. I at least have acknowledged both his good and bad qualities, both of which are plentiful.

            What did he do today? He was given the ball countless times off of 4 turnovers giving them great field position for a good chunk of the day. He put up three stinking touchdowns against a bad defense! That's it! Are we expected to win if we put up 21 points every week? Maybe if we're the ravens and have some defensive personality.. but we aren't and we don't. That's unreasonable to expect to win with 21 points.

            A-Rod was given a prime opportunity today and he blew it. This week was worse than last week. He should have won that game today. No doubt about it. While he has no control over the hold, a savy vet throws the ball away, or stops dropping back when they see the guard blows the play. Either situation would have kept them in field goal range to at least have a shot to win.

            As my thread today said, I counted 9 plays where we left yards on the field from bad passes, be it drops from a ball behind them, or yac, from a ball too high or behind, etc. One play does NOT change the result of a game. 9 plays does. This isn't about the last play of the game. That is just the icing on the cake. It's about the consistently below average offense throughout the game. I don't know about you, but I didn't see the offense tearing it up...

            The only person that is dumb is the one who refused to acknowledge that 21 points against a strong offense and a bad defense is simply not good enough to win consistently in today's NFL.

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            • good god, i just got home

              blow this fucking team up. theres a handfull of players i would keep, and thats it

              get rid of the gm, all the coaches, and the rest of the team. M3 and his staff do not have what it takes to coach a winning team, i now believe last year was a fluke

              i was furious at what i witnessed today

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              • Rodgers had a QB rating over 100 and we rushed for over 100 yards.

                The defense gave up 414 yards though the air and 140 yards on the ground including the winning drive after they were pinned at the 2. I don't see how you can blame this loss on the offense whatsoever.
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                • Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  All you can ask of the defense is to give you the ball at the end of the game with an opportunity to win the game imo. The defense gave the O a chance to win today, and they didn't do it.
                  DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE LAST @ MINUTES OF THE GAME? THE DEFENSE BLEW IT!?! You have to be the most ignorant person I have ever seen and that is saying something.
                  I will ask you one simple yes or no question:

                  Did the Packers not have the ball at on 1st down at the Texans 25 yard line, with ~2:00 to go in the 4th quarter?

                  I rest my case.
                  Did the Texans have the ball on their own 2 yard line with 2 minutes to go in the 4th Quarter?

                  I rest my case.
                  The defense failed, no doubt about it. The point is the offense failed, too, and most importantly, failed first. That offensive failure takes the wind out of their proverbial sail. Seriously, is it that hard of a concept to grasp?

                  Can we all agree that this is the logical explanation?
                  NO becuase what you just did is gave the D a pass and made excuses for them so you could continue to bash Rodgers. The PAckers had the Texans backed up to their own 2yard line. All the D had to do is make a stop and ARod gets another chance. The D failed. Not ARod. End of Story.

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                  • Originally posted by imscott72
                    Rodgers had a QB rating over 100 and we rushed for over 100 yards.

                    The defense gave up 414 yards though the air and 140 yards on the ground including the winning drive after they were pinned at the 2. I don't see how you can blame this loss on the offense whatsoever.
                    1 for 10 on 3rd downs is piss poor. Not scoring when you get it to near the 20 with the game on the line (holds, sacks, poor play calling)...

                    Defense owns this loss - but offense didn't help much.
                    The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
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                    "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                    • Originally posted by Fosco33
                      Originally posted by imscott72
                      Rodgers had a QB rating over 100 and we rushed for over 100 yards.

                      The defense gave up 414 yards though the air and 140 yards on the ground including the winning drive after they were pinned at the 2. I don't see how you can blame this loss on the offense whatsoever.
                      1 for 10 on 3rd downs is piss poor. Not scoring when you get it to near the 20 with the game on the line (holds, sacks, poor play calling)...

                      Defense owns this loss - but offense didn't help much.
                      Now this I can agree with. Puts it succinctly.

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                      • what happened on the texans 2 point conversion? they didn't say at the stadium why the play stood. on the jumbo tron it sure looked like he only got 1 foot in.

                        BTW, the refs sucked bad in this game. one the intentional grounding call on schuab, they didn't throw a flag until one ref watched the jumbotron and saw that they screwed up

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                        • Originally posted by Fosco33
                          Originally posted by imscott72
                          Rodgers had a QB rating over 100 and we rushed for over 100 yards.

                          The defense gave up 414 yards though the air and 140 yards on the ground including the winning drive after they were pinned at the 2. I don't see how you can blame this loss on the offense whatsoever.
                          1 for 10 on 3rd downs is piss poor. Not scoring when you get it to near the 20 with the game on the line (holds, sacks, poor play calling)...

                          Defense owns this loss - but offense didn't help much.
                          I'll give you the 3rd down conversions. That is bad, but I can't put this loss on the offense. Could they have done more? Of course, they always can, but imo they did more than enough to win the game. The defense was once again way to porous.
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                          • Originally posted by red
                            what happened on the texans 2 point conversion? they didn't say at the stadium why the play stood. on the jumbo tron it sure looked like he only got 1 foot in.

                            BTW, the refs sucked bad in this game. one the intentional grounding call on schuab, they didn't throw a flag until one ref watched the jumbotron and saw that they screwed up

                            Replays showed the dirt kicking up from the him dragging the other foot, it was a clean, nice catch, but it'd be nice it our defense could take advantage of the no force out rule.

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                            • Originally posted by red
                              what happened on the texans 2 point conversion? they didn't say at the stadium why the play stood. on the jumbo tron it sure looked like he only got 1 foot in.

                              BTW, the refs sucked bad in this game. one the intentional grounding call on schuab, they didn't throw a flag until one ref watched the jumbotron and saw that they screwed up
                              Ref claimed on the review that he "drug" the 2nd foot in..Larrivee disagreed on radio. I didn't see it myself. The refs were horrid all day. Must of had money on the Texans. I think the officiating is as bad as the NBA this year.
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                              • Actually you could see him dragging his foot and the dirt kicking up.

                                The really poor call was the holding call on Moll on that 9 yard gain at the end of the game. WTF? There was no hold there.

                                Besides, from Houston's own end zone following, the right tackle held Kampman - turned his head around - and there was no call. Grrrr.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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