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  • #16
    Culpepper still had the ball in his hand. As Bobblehead said, some kind of block had to be thrown there. He hit him from the side, which is pretty questionable. But I would chalk it up to a miscalculation of the physics involved more so than anything overtly malicious.

    I also don't like to see guys get hurt. All of that said, if anyone had it coming it's Mr. Fifteen K per Week in fines, Jared Allen. If the marginal fines have no impact, and obviously they don't, then maybe someone taking his knees out will.

    I thought his hypocritical overreaction was pretty funny. Cry me a river, Jared.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bobblehead
      I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

      Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


      You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by bobblehead
        I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

        Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.
        You hit him in the chest then or jump in front of him. That's cheap to deliberately dive at his legs, especially with such force.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler
          Players from the '60s and '70s would laugh at a current day player complaining about that block. Allen was running in the general direction of the blocker, the blocker's head was in front so it wasn't a "clip" under the old interpretation. As long as you got your helmet in front, nothing else mattered much. Might have been a bit low, but he seemed to get him right at the knee. The old D-linemen used to have to jump over blocks like that.

          Times have sure changed!


          Agreed... I'm a younin but the rules don't say this is illegal.. its just the pussies now a days who see this as a problem.

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          • #20
            Allen should have been paying attn. I never whined about his hits and I won't whine about this one either. QB's have to protect themselves and so should dlineman, olineman, recievers, linebackers, defensive backs, running backs and anyone else who steps on the field.

            The only position I don't think should be touched at all is punters and kickers. They are too vulnerable with what they're asked to do.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              Allen should have been paying attn. I never whined about his hits and I won't whine about this one either. QB's have to protect themselves and so should dlineman, olineman, recievers, linebackers, defensive backs, running backs and anyone else who steps on the field.

              The only position I don't think should be touched at all is punters and kickers. They are too vulnerable with what they're asked to do.

              Vikings punter Chris Kluwe got completely Sapp'ed the game before. I saw that and said damn, gotta watch where you are.

              I still think it's a bit lame to go for a guys knee. Yes, I thought Allen's play on Schaub was lame.

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              • #22
                That is a clean play. He got his helmet in front of the knees, Allen was inside of the tackle box, and he was not engaged with another blocker at the time of the block.

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                • #23
                  It looked like it might be a cheap shot, but there was also no way the Olineman was going to be able to get off his feet in time. he's got to hit him low to block him. Now whether you hit him him the knee intentionally is the question. It looked dirty to me, but it wasn't a Charles Martin.

                  I read a quote from Jared Allen after the game where he said,"Knees are sacred in this league." He must've skipped church the day they played the Texans.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BobDobbs
                    It looked like it might be a cheap shot, but there was also no way the Olineman was going to be able to get off his feet in time. he's got to hit him low to block him. Now whether you hit him him the knee intentionally is the question. It looked dirty to me, but it wasn't a Charles Martin.

                    I read a quote from Jared Allen after the game where he said,"Knees are sacred in this league." He must've skipped church the day they played the Texans.


                    Exactly.

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                    • #25
                      It seemed to make him better, he came back in and had five tackles, two sacks, three tackles for a loss, two quarterback hurries and one forced fumble.

                      He is one tough SOB, and still made a major impact on the game.
                      Minnesota Vikings
                      NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

                        Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


                        You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.
                        Clifton wasn't in pursuit, he gave up on the play. That being said he shouldn't have and sapps hit was legal. If he wasn't an asshat about it later there would be no hard feelings.

                        The blocker on the ground didn't know if the block was necessary, all he saw was JA charging in the direction of his QB.
                        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by bobblehead
                          I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

                          Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.
                          You hit him in the chest then or jump in front of him. That's cheap to deliberately dive at his legs, especially with such force.
                          The dude was already on the ground, he crawled in front of him. Is it cheap when a RB dives low on a charging DE?
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #28
                            Not sure. He hit him from the side where the knee is weak. Most RB collisions are head on and they know its coming. It looks very deliberate to me.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by PackerTimer
                              I'm not surpised somebody took at a shot at him. It was cheap but if there is one person who has no place to complain about cheap shots, it's Allen. Karma is a bitch.
                              This. That piece of crap runs his mouth and cheap shots others. He deserves what he gets.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Nasty Block on Jared Allen

                                Originally posted by Rastak
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Talk about low blows. I hope the joker that did that gets suspended. That was the dirtiest thing I've seen all season by far. He hit him really hard!

                                Backside play, straight at the knee....definately cheap. Now he knows hos Schaub felt. I thought that play on Schaub was pretty damn cheap also.
                                Not Allen? Nooooo, not the same one that went at Ortons injured ankle after the ball was released? Say it aint so?

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