AJ Hawk

[denverYooper]

JSO asking the same questions, and why Bishop could do what Hawk has not in terms of impact plays:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/35941344.html

I like that Moss was pretty blunt about it: "A.J. needs to get going", instead of saying something like "he's been having good practices", "I didn't think he performed that badly, but we'll check the film and clean up things we need to clean up", etc.

[KYPack]

JSO asking the same questions, and why Bishop could do what Hawk has not in terms of impact plays:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/35941344.html

I like that Moss was pretty blunt about it: "A.J. needs to get going", instead of saying something like "he's been having good practices", "I didn't think he performed that badly, but we'll check the film and clean up things we need to clean up", etc.

I thought the same thing.

That was real candid language.

Stories like that don't usually come out of the Packer camp, espec. from a position coach.

[Pugger]

And maybe the entire defense needs a DC like that to tell it like it is!!!

[SMACKTALKIE]

And maybe the entire defense needs a DC like that to tell it like it is!!!

I think its a combination of DC and personnel. When Cottrell was DC for the Vikes teams ran all over the D. Fat Pat helped to ease that problem, but the D did'nt really take off until Tomlin came to town.

The Pack is hurting on the D line and Sanders is probably not the answer, but the Pack needs a DC that will fit the Pack's personnel. Tough spot.

P.S. Can anyone tell me if Sanders runs a 2 gap run D?

[RashanGary]

Bishop reminds me of EJ Henderson.

Hawk is barely average.

[cpk1994]

P.S. Can anyone tell me if Sanders runs a 2 gap run D?

If you mean as in a defense that has 2 gaps for their opponents to run through, then yes.

[SMACKTALKIE]

P.S. Can anyone tell me if Sanders runs a 2 gap run D?

If you mean as in a defense that has 2 gaps for their opponents to run through, then yes.

Good one. Thats what it looked like when Cottrell ran in Minnesota. It's only effective if the MLB really knows what he is doing. Hawk is a great athelete but does not seem a natural MLB.

[Merlin]

MLB is not an easy position and for as much as people hack on Barnett, his numbers mirror Urlachers. Hawk will be fine. I don't think he was prepared to lead the defense and I think to some extent that affects how he plays. Players have good games and bad ones. Everyone was so impressed with Hawk the first game he took over for Barnett, so what has changed? Granted Hawk hasn't been earth shattering on the outside this season either. So Bishop shows up for one game and all of a sudden Hawk sucks? I don't get the logic here, none of it. Overall Bishop is not as good as Hawk. One game does not a player make. In some cases not even one season. Start Bishop instead of Hawk (meaning Hawk is not on the field) for any length of time and tell me that he is better.

There is a lot more going on in the scheme of the defense then making the tackle, sometimes it's to force the play away from you and then obviously your chances of making the tackle are less and someone else's greater. Let's not start throwing Hawk under the bus. There is a reason Bishop hasn't been a starter.

[KYPack]

P.S. Can anyone tell me if Sanders runs a 2 gap run D?

Yeah, that is what we run 95% of the time.

The DT's play a 3 technique, two gap. The DE's play wide, also in a 2 gap.

The LB's are sheltered, inside the ends and deep as much as 6-7 yards deep in some sets.
Some have commented that the D is designed to have the linebackers make the tackles. That's quite true. The DLineman are tasked to keep the LB's clean and those backers are key men in this schemes' run fits.

The corners both play press coverage (when it's AH and CWood)

The safeties play in the center of the field at a medium depth.

Technically, the pass coverage is a cover 2. 2 safeties deep providing minimal support for the corners.

Many times I see posters state that we play a lot of man or that we play exclusively man to man unlike other teams. That's cool, but it isn't true. We play zone, a modified cover 2. Cover 2 has come to mean the Tampa 2, two safeties deep, over the corners. We play a modified cover two, with the safeties play centerfield at a half depth.

People get confused because of the corners being in press and the fact that the rest of the zone plays matchup. Matchup is a rules situation. You cover the man in your zone. In certain looks, when he leaves your zone, you stay with him. In other looks, the rules state that you stay in your patch, when the man leaves your zone, you stay and defend that part of the field

A while back, I was talking with an ex-NFL corner and safety now retired. We were discussing this same topic. He was explaining match-up to me and I wasn't getting it. I told him I didn't understand it and he laughed. he told me many people don't, especially guys that get cut from NFL teams.