Official PACKERS vs. jags Gameday Thread

[Gunakor]

Per NFL.com we have scored 355 total points (before today) so add in the 16 and we have 371 points scored. Also per that site, 9 TDs have come from either defense or special teams. With the XPs that would make it 63 total points scored by def or ST. So that would make our total offensive scoring at 308 pts. Divide that by 14 games and we have scored an average of 22 ppg. This puts us around the 12-14 ranking (when taking out all def scores from the other teams as well)

Our defense has given up 319 pts after 13 games with 20 more today makes it 339 total points. However there has been 1 fumble ret for a TD so taking away 7 puts it at 332. Divide that by 14 games and the defense has given up an average of 23.7 ppg. This puts us around the 25-26 ranking when taking out all def scores against other teams also.

And we're number 1 in scoring (or thereabouts) in the 4th quarter.

Partial proves he's an idiot over and over.

your the idiot for not getting ur facts straight... go and check again how many the OFFENSE has scored.... embarrassing.. Rodgers folds when the games on the line.. I'm gonna start calling him Shane Falco!

The Green Bay Packers are the #1 scoring team in the NFL in the 4th quarter. It's a concrete stat, so look it up. He's right, and you are the one looking the fool for not checking your facts before posting.

[Pacopete4]

Per NFL.com we have scored 355 total points (before today) so add in the 16 and we have 371 points scored. Also per that site, 9 TDs have come from either defense or special teams. With the XPs that would make it 63 total points scored by def or ST. So that would make our total offensive scoring at 308 pts. Divide that by 14 games and we have scored an average of 22 ppg. This puts us around the 12-14 ranking (when taking out all def scores from the other teams as well)

Our defense has given up 319 pts after 13 games with 20 more today makes it 339 total points. However there has been 1 fumble ret for a TD so taking away 7 puts it at 332. Divide that by 14 games and the defense has given up an average of 23.7 ppg. This puts us around the 25-26 ranking when taking out all def scores against other teams also.

And we're number 1 in scoring (or thereabouts) in the 4th quarter.

Partial proves he's an idiot over and over.

your the idiot for not getting ur facts straight... go and check again how many the OFFENSE has scored.... embarrassing.. Rodgers folds when the games on the line.. I'm gonna start calling him Shane Falco!

CC did check that, retard. I'm so sorry that God left you short on brains.

please show me were he ranked our 4th qrt scoring and took out our defensive scores.. pleeaaaasee show me

[th87]

Per NFL.com we have scored 355 total points (before today) so add in the 16 and we have 371 points scored. Also per that site, 9 TDs have come from either defense or special teams. With the XPs that would make it 63 total points scored by def or ST. So that would make our total offensive scoring at 308 pts. Divide that by 14 games and we have scored an average of 22 ppg. This puts us around the 12-14 ranking (when taking out all def scores from the other teams as well)

Our defense has given up 319 pts after 13 games with 20 more today makes it 339 total points. However there has been 1 fumble ret for a TD so taking away 7 puts it at 332. Divide that by 14 games and the defense has given up an average of 23.7 ppg. This puts us around the 25-26 ranking when taking out all def scores against other teams also.

And we're number 1 in scoring (or thereabouts) in the 4th quarter.

Partial proves he's an idiot over and over.

I have a hard time taking much stock in that

If somebody told us we were #25 in the first quarter would that mean we're unprepared coming out of the gate until we make our adjustments ?

As I noted before our both defenses today suck

If somebody told me before the game we'd only give up 20 I'd take that
If somebody told me before the game our O would only score 16 I'd have said we didn't play a good offense that game

You're right the offense played badly this game. However, my point was to counter Partial-brain's suggestion that the Packers can't score in the 4th, and this mythical <20 offensive scoring figure.

[digitaldean]

Let's face it... we are soft at o-line and d-line. We get beat up by more physical teams, the NFC champ. game proved that last year for crying out loud. This year even the offensive dregs are ripping us up in the 2nd half of the seaosn.

If we had someone other than Kampy getting to the QB that'd help immensely. If we had LBs that (overall) could move faster we'd be burn less.

Virtually all on that d-line have had a subpar year. O-line, Tausch will have to have 9 months min. of rehab, so he may or may not be ready for training camp. Moll is too inconsistent, that's inexcusable considering how long he's been here. Wells gets shoved around. Spitz, again too inconsistent. We can't get the length of the football for a first down? Inexcusable.

It's obvious we need help in the draft and FA:
1.) O line help
2.) D line help
3.) A physical LB with speed
4.) A VETERAN TE (how much of a difference would a Tony Gonzalez be this season?)

I hope Vanilla Bob has his bags packed, otherwise the Packers should FedEx them tomorrow to the destination of his choice for him.

[Gunakor]

Per NFL.com we have scored 355 total points (before today) so add in the 16 and we have 371 points scored. Also per that site, 9 TDs have come from either defense or special teams. With the XPs that would make it 63 total points scored by def or ST. So that would make our total offensive scoring at 308 pts. Divide that by 14 games and we have scored an average of 22 ppg. This puts us around the 12-14 ranking (when taking out all def scores from the other teams as well)

Our defense has given up 319 pts after 13 games with 20 more today makes it 339 total points. However there has been 1 fumble ret for a TD so taking away 7 puts it at 332. Divide that by 14 games and the defense has given up an average of 23.7 ppg. This puts us around the 25-26 ranking when taking out all def scores against other teams also.

And we're number 1 in scoring (or thereabouts) in the 4th quarter.

Partial proves he's an idiot over and over.

I have a hard time taking much stock in that

If somebody told us we were #25 in the first quarter would that mean we're unprepared coming out of the gate until we make our adjustments ?

As I noted before our both defenses today suck

If somebody told me before the game we'd only give up 20 I'd take that
If somebody told me before the game our O would only score 16 I'd have said we didn't play a good offense that game

If we're #25 in the first quarter that means the coaches aren't doing a tremendous job forming a gameplan going in. If we're #1 in the 4th quarter I'd say our coaches are doing a fantastic job making in game adjustments.

The offense shares a larger portion of the blame in this loss than in previous ones, to be sure. But the fact remains that we had a lead late in the 4th quarter and lost the game. Regardless of score, regardless of circumstance, I expect the defense to hold in that situation every single time. That's what I expect from our defense. Zero points given up in the final 5 minutes of a game, not all that unreasonable an expectation IMO. If our defense holds in the final 5 minutes of even half of our close losses this season, we are still tied with the Vikings for the division lead. That's where I stand on this whole thing...

[Cheesehead Craig]

I saw that on FOX during the game today, they put up a stat that we were the top overall scoring team in the NFL in the 4th Q I'm sure they are adding in the 5 def TDs we have in the 4th. But I cannot find a quick link to that so I went through and added up the 4th Q pts for and against taking out all def scores just by a quick read of the box scores. This includes today's game.

Pts scored - 95
Pts given up - 122

[Bretsky]

Per NFL.com we have scored 355 total points (before today) so add in the 16 and we have 371 points scored. Also per that site, 9 TDs have come from either defense or special teams. With the XPs that would make it 63 total points scored by def or ST. So that would make our total offensive scoring at 308 pts. Divide that by 14 games and we have scored an average of 22 ppg. This puts us around the 12-14 ranking (when taking out all def scores from the other teams as well)

Our defense has given up 319 pts after 13 games with 20 more today makes it 339 total points. However there has been 1 fumble ret for a TD so taking away 7 puts it at 332. Divide that by 14 games and the defense has given up an average of 23.7 ppg. This puts us around the 25-26 ranking when taking out all def scores against other teams also.

And we're number 1 in scoring (or thereabouts) in the 4th quarter.

Partial proves he's an idiot over and over.

I have a hard time taking much stock in that

If somebody told us we were #25 in the first quarter would that mean we're unprepared coming out of the gate until we make our adjustments ?

As I noted before our both defenses today suck

If somebody told me before the game we'd only give up 20 I'd take that
If somebody told me before the game our O would only score 16 I'd have said we didn't play a good offense that game

If we're #25 in the first quarter that means the coaches aren't doing a tremendous job forming a gameplan going in. If we're #1 in the 4th quarter I'd say our coaches are doing a fantastic job making in game adjustments.

The offense shares a larger portion of the blame in this loss than in previous ones, to be sure. But the fact remains that we had a lead late in the 4th quarter and lost the game. Regardless of score, regardless of circumstance, I expect the defense to hold in that situation every single time. That's what I expect from our defense. Zero points given up in the final 5 minutes of a game, not all that unreasonable an expectation IMO. If our defense holds in the final 5 minutes of even half of our close losses this season, we are still tied with the Vikings for the division lead. That's where I stand on this whole thing...

To be honest I just pulled that #25 out of my ass; it was just a point towards me not taking a ton of stock into the 4th quarter rating; the good teams that are ahead are often sitting on leads then instead of trying to aggressively score....well..........unless you are New England

Actually we pretty much have the same view on today.

With that being said against the Jags before the game I'd still take 20 pts given up by our defense in a second and figure the offense would score enough to win.

[Pacopete4]

I saw that on FOX during the game today, they put up a stat that we were the top overall scoring team in the NFL in the 4th Q I'm sure they are adding in the 5 def TDs we have in the 4th. But I cannot find a quick link to that so I went through and added up the 4th Q pts for and against taking out all def scores just by a quick read of the box scores. This includes today's game.

Pts scored - 95
Pts given up - 122

so we're scoring just under a TD in the 4th and allowing just over a TD in the 4th on Avg.

[Gunakor]

I saw that on FOX during the game today, they put up a stat that we were the top overall scoring team in the NFL in the 4th Q I'm sure they are adding in the 5 def TDs we have in the 4th. But I cannot find a quick link to that so I went through and added up the 4th Q pts for and against taking out all def scores just by a quick read of the box scores. This includes today's game.

Pts scored - 95
Pts given up - 122

so we're scoring just under a TD in the 4th and allowing just over a TD in the 4th on Avg.

Considering that we have the lead going into the 4th quarter nearly every week, that's very significant to the situation we find ourselves in now.

[Brohm]

Let's face it... we are soft at o-line and d-line. We get beat up by more physical teams, the NFC champ. game proved that last year for crying out loud. This year even the offensive dregs are ripping us up in the 2nd half of the seaosn.

If we had someone other than Kampy getting to the QB that'd help immensely. If we had LBs that (overall) could move faster we'd be burn less.

Virtually all on that d-line have had a subpar year. O-line, Tausch will have to have 9 months min. of rehab, so he may or may not be ready for training camp. Moll is too inconsistent, that's inexcusable considering how long he's been here. Wells gets shoved around. Spitz, again too inconsistent. We can't get the length of the football for a first down? Inexcusable.

It's obvious we need help in the draft and FA:
1.) O line help
2.) D line help
3.) A physical LB with speed
4.) A VETERAN TE (how much of a difference would a Tony Gonzalez be this season?)

I hope Vanilla Bob has his bags packed, otherwise the Packers should FedEx them tomorrow to the destination of his choice for him.

I'm for giving Moll the benefit of the doubt. he has been asked to play multiple positions since he came on board. He came in and started as a rookie with only 1 college season as a tackle. Hell he stoned Merriman in his first preseason start. I think he'll improve as he gets locked in at one position and can play regularly. I think Spitz should be moved to center permanently. It's one of those situations (sometimes dictated by injuries) where you ask someone to do multiple things: they may do them all okay but none of them great.

The D needs new blood from coaching on down and MM needs to stop thinking he is the smartest man on the field and stick what will definately get the job done.

If Stock had any role in the puning debacle he should be canned else I'm for canning him soley on the ST play.

I don't think Gonzo would had that big of an impact given the quality WR we had. Some impact yes, but we need a stalwart D and a running game.

[Pacopete4]

I saw that on FOX during the game today, they put up a stat that we were the top overall scoring team in the NFL in the 4th Q I'm sure they are adding in the 5 def TDs we have in the 4th. But I cannot find a quick link to that so I went through and added up the 4th Q pts for and against taking out all def scores just by a quick read of the box scores. This includes today's game.

Pts scored - 95
Pts given up - 122

so we're scoring just under a TD in the 4th and allowing just over a TD in the 4th on Avg.

Considering that we have the lead going into the 4th quarter nearly every week, that's very significant to the situation we find ourselves in now.

ya its blame on both IMO. Our D, even though its really banged up with injuries should not be giving up the lead each week with about 5 mins left in the game.. but our offense is also been really shitty when it matters as well.. they need to get the damn ball in the endzone and win a game for once

[digitaldean]

If we win half of these close games, we are at 8-6 and still in it.

Neither side of the ball was brilliant today, that's obvious. But for the THIRD STRAIGHT WEEK our ST and/or D had a team that needed to come from behind late... and failed.

When it comes down to it, the D's job is make a stop, period. Especially against an offensively challenged team like Jax.

[Pacopete4]

If we win half of these close games, we are at 8-6 and still in it.

Neither side of the ball was brilliant today, that's obvious. But for the THIRD STRAIGHT WEEK our ST and/or D had a team that needed to come from behind late... and failed.

When it comes down to it, the D's job is make a stop, period. Especially against an offensively challenged team like Jax.

but its not on the fault of the offense with all that talent they have to not score more against the 24th ranked D?.... makes sense ha

[th87]

Quick points:

1. The offense has scored 94 points in the 4th.
2. The defense has scored 35.
3. PacoPete is a societal liability.

[Pacopete4]

Quick points:

1. The offense has scored 94 points in the 4th.
2. The defense has scored 35.
3. th87 is a societal liability.