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  • #46
    Originally posted by Gunakor
    Originally posted by Pugger
    Rodgers has shown some good skills - he has a strong arm and can scramble out of trouble - but he has his warts too. He presses, especially late in games when he has to come thru. He's gotta to learn to take what the defense gives him. His tendency to throw INTs late in games has killed us these past few weeks. Will he improve with more experience? We all better hope so.
    Have we seen a QB play for the Packers at all since 1992 that didn't force throws late in games, trying to make something happen for his team? Please don't hold AR to a higher standard than BF. If one is okay with BF taking these chances and forcing these throws late in games, he'd be a hypocrit to call AR out for taking the same chances and forcing the same throws late in games.

    I don't know how you felt about BF taking these chances, so I'm not calling you out for this post at all. If you were pissed at BF for forcing throws late in games, often times killing drives and securing defeat, then you should be very pissed at AR for doing the same things. I'm just trying to offer perspective on the deal, and asking that people do not hold AR to a higher standard than they held BF to.


    difference being, Favre actually made the plays to win the game most the time... ya there was bone headed INT's that did cost us and I think all of us were pissed at him during those times... but Rodgers is just throwing INT's or not getting it done... theres were the two comparisons end

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    • #47
      oh and Gunkor,



      none of us.. I'm tellin ya... ZERO PEOPLE IN HERE, will have one problem with Rodgers when he starts winning the close games at the end... you can keep feeding urself and everyone in here excuses but good, no check that, great QB's win those games at the end no matter how the rest of their day has went... and there is ur different from Rodgers being ok, as he has been this season... and one of the better ones in the league



      ask him urself... he would tell u if he's any kind of QB that he needs to be able to lead his team down and drill the fucking ball into the endzone and win a game when his team needs him too... its as simple as that


      (ps. dont feed me shit about our defense, everyone understands they're struggling... thats not what the discussion is about)

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      • #48
        Re: Is AR like a hot chic that

        Originally posted by Fritz
        Originally posted by rbaloha
        performs poorly in bed? Meaning will AR always have great stats but unable to lead the Packers to big wins?

        Your comments Packers Nation?
        Arod is like a young, hot chick who has only had sex a couple of times. And Rodgers seems willing to learn. So, to continue the analogy, if the young hot chick is eager to learn, she will soon be the goddess of the bedroom, a steamy, naughty, hot sex machine, and therefore, Arod will soon become the god of the football field, a hot winning quarterback.
        I've noticed a couple of instances where Rodgers learns pretty well and tries to do new things each week, often not too long after people start really complaining about them:

        --There were complaints that he never goes over the middle. After the Saints game, it seemed like he started using the middle of the field more.

        --There were complaints about how he never rolls left. How about that 46 yard completion to Jones? He rolled left and threw 40 yards in the air.

        Things like these give me hope that Fritz's analogy will be the prevailing one.
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • #49
          Rodgers seems more "robotic" than Favre was. As in he'll learn something, file it away, and not make the same mistake later. Being robotic prevents one from being creative like Favre was, so we probably won't see a lot of freelancing to victory. With Rodgers, we'll need to be patient while he learns from experience and programs himself to perform well in a variety of situations.

          Or let's try a boxing analogy. Brett Favre was a puncher and Rodgers is a technician. Technicians take time to perfect their craft, whereas punchers can win dramatically right away.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by th87
            Rodgers seems more "robotic" than Favre was. As in he'll learn something, file it away, and not make the same mistake later. Being robotic prevents one from being creative like Favre was, so we probably won't see a lot of freelancing to victory. With Rodgers, we'll need to be patient while he learns from experience and programs himself to perform well in a variety of situations.

            Or let's try a boxing analogy. Brett Favre was a puncher and Rodgers is a technician. Technicians take time to perfect their craft, whereas punchers can win dramatically right away.

            thats probably one of the better analogies ive heard actually... very nice!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Pacopete4
              Originally posted by th87
              Rodgers seems more "robotic" than Favre was. As in he'll learn something, file it away, and not make the same mistake later. Being robotic prevents one from being creative like Favre was, so we probably won't see a lot of freelancing to victory. With Rodgers, we'll need to be patient while he learns from experience and programs himself to perform well in a variety of situations.

              Or let's try a boxing analogy. Brett Favre was a puncher and Rodgers is a technician. Technicians take time to perfect their craft, whereas punchers can win dramatically right away.

              thats probably one of the better analogies ive heard actually... very nice!
              Thanks dude.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Partial, regardless of Palmer, to even suggest that Jay Cutler is a top QB is laughable and better than Rodgers is

                Cutler was 2-3 in his rookie year, 9 tds and 5 ints.

                Denver was 7-9 last year. Cutler had 20 tds and 14 ints.

                Denver is currently 8-6. Cutler has been the textbook definition of Jekyll and Hyde. 24 tds and 15 picks.

                Not one season in the 90s for QB rating.

                So would you take Rodgers over Jay Cutler long term ??
                I'm actually a big Cutler guy. I really like what he brings, but even i can't put him in the top 12...that was really my point, not whom i would take for the long term.

                Previously i woulda said Cutler, but Arod has really shown me a ton. Wasn't long ago many were worried about the Cal lineage and throwing motion.

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