Favre has two more games to deliver

[Freak Out]

Losing to the Seahawks is the nail in the coffin for old #4 and maybe for the guys that brought him to NY...it's not all his fault....the Jets had the winning formula but failed to use it. Stupid.

[Fritz]

This from NFL.com:

"Favre came up short when the Jets (9-6) needed him most. Then again, New York has felt that way for a month.

The Jets were 8-3 and an apparent shoo-in for the playoffs. But New York has lost three of four while Favre has thrown just one touchdown pass and six interceptions.

On Sunday, he started 8-for-9 but finished 18-of-31 for 187 yards and two interceptions. He underthrew Coles near the Seahawks' 30 in the fourth quarter, and David Clowney earlier when he was 3 yards behind Josh Wilson at the Seahawks' 40. That brought to mind questions of whether a 39-year-old passing shoulder is finally betraying Favre."

Looks like, unless the Jets win and get some help, the Pack will get a third round pick. Funny how the season seems to have ended up sucking for both Favre and the Pack.

And now the Jets can deal with Favre's "real" retirement, or maybe retirement, or non-retirement, or whichever it will be.

[LL2]

The Pack can get that 2nd rd pick in this scenario:

The Jets clinch the AFC East title with a win over Miami and a New England loss.

That is a big IF. Pennington is sure going to try to stick it to his old team!

[LP]

I remember reading somewhere that if Favre were to retire this year, Green Bay would have to give a fith round pick back to the Jets. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?

[sheepshead]

Jim McMahon was just on ESPN radio and said that Favre told him he was going to retire at the end of the 07-08 season when they visited after the Bears game here last year. Interesting if it's true. Telling, where his heart and head were during the playoffs.

[Chevelle2]

Jim McMahon was just on ESPN radio and said that Favre told him he was going to retire at the end of the 07-08 season when they visited after the Bears game here last year. Interesting if it's true. Telling, where his heart and head were during the playoffs.

The monday nighter, in week 5?!?!

[sheepshead]

12-23

[Fritz]

After seeing Favre's performance the last three weeks, how many Packerrats still think the Pack would be in the playoffs if Favre were with the team?

How many posters would like to swap with the Jets and have to deal with the retirement drama this offseason?

[sheepshead]

Ahhh the irony!!!

Plus you can see a poll about Brett's last game-yikes:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2008/12/22/2008-12-22_chad_pennington_may_be_one_to_make_brett-2.html

[LL2]

So...is TT smiling?

Winners and losers: Faltering Favre arrives

By Charles Robinson, Yahoo! Sports Dec 21, 11:46 pm EST

This is where it all starts with Brett Favre. This is where fans start groaning about his decision-making. This is where Favre starts moaning about being emotionally taxed and how this might be it for him. And this is where the season collapses.

As the New York Jets quarterback told reporters leading into Sunday: “I’m well aware of the fact that there’s two games left. I’m expecting us to make the playoffs, as I hope the rest of the team is, but it very well could be my last. It could be my last three games, last four games, I don’t know.”

If Jets fans listen closely, they can hear Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson snickering from 750 miles away. He knows this hell the Packers have lived in over the past few seasons. The scenario where Favre’s level of play plummets like a piano pushed off the penthouse window sill, and takes the playoff hopes with it.

That’s what is happening before our eyes. Favre has one touchdown and six interceptions in his last four games, a 1-3 record in that span, and a month of play that hasn’t seen him post a quarterback rating north of 61.4. That begs one question: Is it too late for Jets coach Eric Mangini to change his infant son’s middle name? Maybe to Eli or Peyton?

But take heart, Jets fans. All isn’t lost. Not yet, anyway. The Jets still have faint playoff hopes. If they beat the Miami Dolphins next week – in the Meadowlands return of Dolphins quarterback Chad Pennington, no less – they could still get in. But only if one of two things happen: a New England Patriots loss at the Buffalo Bills, or if the Baltimore Ravens fall to the visiting Jacksonville Jaguars.

Impossible? No. Unlikely? Definitely, particularly when you consider Favre hasn’t strung together two great quarters of football since that Nov. 23 win over Tennessee – a victory that seems far in the rearview mirror now, along with those screaming proclamations of the Jets as Super Bowl material and Favre as an MVP candidate. All of that is gone now, with Favre getting outdueled by the Seattle Seahawks’ Seneca Wallace, in the type of snowy conditions that helped forge his legend.

So here the Jets sit, hoping and praying and watching their season play out in a string of variables. Waiting for Chad Pennington to return, hoping he won’t exact some revenge for all the years of venom he swallowed.
The end is coming. And that makes the Jets this week’s biggest loser.

[woodbuck27]

It's threads like this one that remind me why I had to take leave of this place. Some of your prejudices cloud your brain.

Questions?

How many games did the NY Jets win in 2007? How many games have the Jets won this season with Favre at QB? I believe the results of these questions certainly reveal the answer to any question of Jets with or without Favre.

Favre has played well as a Jet given what he has to work with. Y'all may take a good look at the HC and game decisions Re: the loss to the Seahawks. That reminds me of what I see too in terms of the Packer results.

The players can only execute the plays. The coaching staff have to prepare them and the HC make the calls in terms of strategy. The HC isn't beyond reproof. I really get a kick of the ignorant fan that actually believes it's all on the QB in terms of 'a pick' too. Sure it is.

Despite the recent nosedive the Jets are still alive going to the final week.

I might toss out a question on the decision to go with Aaron Rodgers and the dismal results of the Packer season. That result has little again to do with QB play.

There are several factors that should be obvious as to why the Packers may only win six games this season. QB play isn't one of them.

Any knowledgeable football fan knows full well that you cannot pin a season or a lost game on the teams QB. There are many elements that lead to a result both positve or negative.

I really want to express this:

Merry Christmas PackerRats and have a healthy and very Happy New Year.

[DonHutson]

Ted Thompson snickering from 750 miles away.

A. Ted has never "snickered" in his life.

B. He shouldn't be starting now. While he was right about Favre, he's got plenty of other problems to occupy his time.