A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

[texaspackerbacker]

Garcia has always been a low potential/high achiever kind of guy. The same is pretty much true of Hasselbeck.

Rodgers has a lot more potential/raw talent. That certainly doesn't mean he will automatically be a superstar, but combined with the work ethic and the team around him, I think there's a good chance.

Why the negativity about Super Bowls? Rodgers stands a much better chance of getting there and winning than if he played for the great majority of other NFL teams. Anybody saying otherwise is dissing the team they supposedly are a fan of.

I wouldn't compare him to Steve Young. Young was a much better runner. Rodgers can get yardage by improvising, but Young was the kind of guy who was a threat to go all the way, and that running plays actually were called for. I do think Rodgers is a better passer, though, and hopefully, will have a longer career--not shortened by concussions gotten with all that running Young did.

At this point, I'd compare his likely future to Pastorini or Stabler.

[packrat]

Fortunately he's young enough so that there is time to build a team around him. Despite Favre's glory years when he still had Reggie, through too much of the prime of his career he had crappy receivers and the defense couldn't stop 4th and 26. Rodgers future lies in the hands of the GM and if the GM doesn't hold up his end of the bargain Rodgers will still be young enough when he moves on that he can choose a team that gives him the support any quarterback needs. I predict a couple of superbowls in his future.

[RashanGary]

His deep balls have been impressive. I don't know the numbers, it would be nice if one of the papers wrote something up, but it seems like his completion percentage downfield is better than it's ever been in Green Bay. When he bombs it, it seems like it almost always comes up caught. I remember so many overthrown, undertrhow, thrown into triple coverage, etc. This year it's bomb to open guy, perfect throw, catch.

[GBRulz]

I thought A-Rod was busy with Madonna lately?

[Partial]

I thought A-Rod was busy with Madonna lately?

If our A-Rod ever meets the status of the real A-Rod, we'd be incredibly lucky!

[pbmax]

Physically he has better gifts than Hasselback and Garcia. Garcia is less than six feet tall, which explains his dancing in the pocket to create sight lines (stole that observation from Greg Cosell).

He has a long way to go to be Young, much less Montana. He actually has more Favre in him than I thought. His accuracy dip from the middle of the season on is worrisome, but he also had an injured shoulder and that likely changed his motion.

Its his first year starting. Pocket presence and reading defense will become second nature to him in year 3 and 4. Which is my kind way of reminding everyone that Favre took a big step backward in year two, trying to put everything all together. I am certain his pocket presence will improve.

[RashanGary]

Jaws had some really positive things to say about Aaron. I think Jaws does a great job. He's one of my favorite football analysts.

Anyway, he said Rodgers arm is big time, his pocket presence is good and clearly has gotten better and also said his decision making is excellent for a young QB. Said he should be a good one for a long time.


Once we get a top 15 defense we'll be winning games. If we ever get a top 3 defense we'll have SB opportunities.

[MJZiggy]

I was watching the Ravens D tonight. **Sigh....

[BF4MVP]

Jaws had some really positive things to say about Aaron. I think Jaws does a great job. He's one of my favorite football analysts.

Anyway, he said Rodgers arm is big time, his pocket presence is good and clearly has gotten better and also said his decision making is excellent for a young QB. Said he should be a good one for a long time.


Once we get a top 15 defense we'll be winning games. If we ever get a top 3 defense we'll have SB opportunities.

His comments are summed up nicely in this article:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20081220/PKR07/81220033/1058/PKR01&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

I like Jaws a lot too..He's probably my favorite NFL analyst.

[bobblehead]

Re: A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins.

Sounds like what Brett Favre would of been without Reggie White.

Since all I keep hearing is superbowl this and that tell me in honesty. If Arod wins 2 super bowls but his numbers are average will this crowd be willing to say he is better than favre?

[SnakeLH2006]

TO called Garcia a homo in some interviews a few years ago, then he got married to the Playboy Playmate of the year who knocked some other chick out in a bar a year or two ago that tried messing with her man (good for Jeff yo)...

Definitely NSFW (beware):

http://tv.jubii.co.uk/video/iLyROoaftpGG.html

Sounds like TO is the gay one as usual. God I hate that loser....

[Partial]

Re: A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins.

Sounds like what Brett Favre would of been without Reggie White.

Since all I keep hearing is superbowl this and that tell me in honesty. If Arod wins 2 super bowls but his numbers are average will this crowd be willing to say he is better than favre?

He'll be a better winner. As for the above from BH, woulda shoulda coulda... impossible to know. Spectaculation like that is a big waste of time.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins.

Sounds like what Brett Favre would of been without Reggie White.

Since all I keep hearing is superbowl this and that tell me in honesty. If Arod wins 2 super bowls but his numbers are average will this crowd be willing to say he is better than favre?

He'll be a better winner. As for the above from BH, woulda shoulda coulda... impossible to know. Spectaculation like that is a big waste of time.

Partial may be partial but Brett is the man....as our season went to the tank, I still enjoy the old bastard winning/watching his interviews postgame/etc.....wish it coulda been here but sobeit...

Fun to say as all QB stats have risen year by year as far as QB rating, but one thing is sure Favre is a winner (hard to put a finger on stats, when you get this sense he wins games no matter what 17/18 years without a losing record and winningest QB EVER should do it)...maybe ARod does it, maybe he wins 2 SB's or more, I'll be behind him, but Brett wins (and inspires his teammates no matter what)...he'll be like Jordan in NFL lore and mine/most others...dude is a top 10 NFL player EVER. End Post.

[texaspackerbacker]

Fortunately he's young enough so that there is time to build a team around him. Despite Favre's glory years when he still had Reggie, through too much of the prime of his career he had crappy receivers and the defense couldn't stop 4th and 26. Rodgers future lies in the hands of the GM and if the GM doesn't hold up his end of the bargain Rodgers will still be young enough when he moves on that he can choose a team that gives him the support any quarterback needs. I predict a couple of superbowls in his future.

So much negativity--not only this post, but others too.

Before this injury-ruined season, it seemed like everything was in place around Rodgers--talent and depth all the way around, and he just had to step in and be adequate. Well, he's been more than adequate, but due to the injuries, due to other bad luck, and due to a few disappointing performances by others, it has been a lousy season.

Pretty much everything is still in place, though--or will be next season when the injured come back and we get a few minor add-ons.

All this talk about Rodgers having a great career, but no Super Bowls in Green Bay is just crap--disrespectful crap for the rest of the team. If Rodgers performs like he has--with normal continued development, the Super Bowls will certainly come. The injuries and other bad luck won't always go against us like this season.

[rbaloha1]

Shall A-Rod reach HOF status?

Great feedback Packers Nation except for the snide gay stuff.

My point is if you review the west coast offenses which won super bowls they possessed HOF and future HOF qbs (Montana, Young, Elway, Favre)

West Coast qbs like Garica and Hasselback produce pro bowl stats but no super bowl victories.

Great defenses like the Ravens (Dilfer, qb), Bucaneers (Johnson, qb) and Steelers (Rothleisberger, qb) can win super bowls without HOF qbs.

More than likely the Packers will not have this type of dominating defense.

Therefore, is A-Rod capable of leading the Packers to a super bowl victory given prior west coast offense history and without a dominating defense?