Why SHOULD McCarthy Stay?

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I'm a big 'eh' to Billick. He was an offensive guy who couldn't ever get an offense in Baltimore, and was able to do alright annually because of hitting the jackpot in Lewis and Reed, both in the lower end of round 1.

[VegasPackFan]

I would take the D coordinator for the NYG's - look what he has done with the challenges he faced this year.

Bill Cowher for sure.

Garrett from the Cowboys would be good.

MM could still work out if he stops being a pussy - he is young and has upside, but I am pissed at him right now.

Where is Jim Bates at this time?

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

[Gunakor]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Who besides Cowher?

BILL COWHER
JIMMY JOHNSON
BRIAN BILLICK

Ah, forgot about Billick.

[Gunakor]

I would take the D coordinator for the NYG's - look what he has done with the challenges he faced this year.

Bill Cowher for sure.

Garrett from the Cowboys would be good.

MM could still work out if he stops being a pussy - he is young and has upside, but I am pissed at him right now.

Where is Jim Bates at this time?

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

I don't want Garrett. We don't have mammoth 350 pound linemen to work with like he has in Dallas. We aren't really built to run the offense they run in Dallas.

I don't want Bates, because then nothing changes. Bob Sanders = Jim Bates.

Jim Johnson from the Eagles maybe? That's worth considering IMO...

[superfan]

Funny how these threads go - we go from "Why Should we keep McCarthy?" to "Which (if any) HOF coach would we consider over McCarthy?" (paraphrasing)



I support keeping McCarthy at least one more year, but you have to consider Cowher if he were available. Not big on Billick or Jimmy J. I've always liked Fisher at TENN and Fox at CAR and think GB should look at these guys if they were to become available (they won't anytime soon now). A couple years ago, after a down year, I was hoping Fisher would get fired in Tennessee so GB could bring him in. Sounds like an obvious statement now based on his success this season.

[th87]

Billick? The offensive mastermind that couldn't create an offense worth a damn?

This guy rode Randy Moss' coattails to a coaching job.

[Bossman641]

I would take the D coordinator for the NYG's - look what he has done with the challenges he faced this year.

Bill Cowher for sure.

Garrett from the Cowboys would be good.

MM could still work out if he stops being a pussy - he is young and has upside, but I am pissed at him right now.

Where is Jim Bates at this time?

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

Spanuolo - maybe

Cowher - yea

Garrett - no

Lebeau - no (too old)

Jim Johnson - no (too old)

[VegasPackFan]

I would take the D coordinator for the NYG's - look what he has done with the challenges he faced this year.

Bill Cowher for sure.

Garrett from the Cowboys would be good.

MM could still work out if he stops being a pussy - he is young and has upside, but I am pissed at him right now.

Where is Jim Bates at this time?

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

Spanuolo - maybe

Cowher - yea

Garrett - no

Lebeau - no (too old)

Jim Johnson - no (too old)

Lebeau and Johnson both bring an aggressive, "kill or be killed" style to their leadership and play calling. Exactly what I think would match to the TT philosophy of a young and hungry team. The combo could work. You want to challenge your young players to go out there and dominate and put it all on the line.

[cpk1994]

Where is Jim Bates at this time?

Running a D in Denver that is even worse than GB.

[Badgerinmaine]

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

Dick LeBeau is a great defensive coach, but he was 12-33 in his lone head coaching stop in Cincinnati.

[Pugger]

I say give MM one more year. Yeah, I know we lost last night but I'm gonna give the coaching staff kudos for having this team ready to play last night when they had nothing to play for, frankly. Rodgers looked sharp in the cold - he was tossing it to receivers all over the place. He wasn't perfect. That one INT was tipped but he did have one pass in the end zone to Driver and he was lucky the bares didn't pick it off. But mostly AR had a nice game and drove the team into FG range for the win but it got blocked by the bares. Driver showed a lot of grit again. Somebody besides Kampy got sacks and Woodson and Collins got picks for the first time in weeks. Even Grant had some nice runs - when the line gave him a place to run. Often other teams playing out the string will just go thru the motions but the fellas came out with some fire but goofy things happened again in Chicago...

[Fritz]

history, too. This is a young team, remember. They clearly don't know how to put a game away. Nor did Holmgren's early teams, who though they often went 9 - 7 blew several games, including once early on in which all they needed to do was to win against an inferior team, thus going 10-6 and getting into the playoffs. But they lost that game.

It'd be stupid to fire MM after this season. However, because of the debacle of this season, the heat is turned up on next year.

[VegasPackFan]

How about Dick Lebow (sp?) from the Steelers.

Dick LeBeau is a great defensive coach, but he was 12-33 in his lone head coaching stop in Cincinnati.

That was being made captain of a sinking ship. They dont even have a scouting staff there, and no real GM either. Two completely different organizations.

[MJZiggy]

I'm with Pugger here. It was a "meaningless" game that the guys might have just rolled over in, but they still come out with fire. And we've been in every game this season--it's not like guys are just mailing it in and it's not like we're getting owned every week.

I've always thought McCarthy was a good coach. I'd love to see him use some of that creativity we see early in the game in the third quarter, but other than that, I think he's fine.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Billick? The offensive mastermind that couldn't create an offense worth a damn?

This guy rode Randy Moss' coattails to a coaching job.

Word. Don't want any part of him.