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  • #31
    Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
    Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

    That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
    No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

    4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
    He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
    He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

    If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

    As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
      Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.
      Aaron Rodgers has an 80.4 QB Rating in the 4th quarter in 2008.



      Situation G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int
      4th Quarter 15 80.4 82 137 59.9 955 0.0 7.0 6 5


      And he has a 75.3 rating for his career:



      Situation G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int
      4th Quarter 22 75.3 102 173 59.0 1122 0.0 6.5 6 6 27 60 0.0 2.2 2 14 103 5 3


      "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" --Benjamin Disraeli
      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
        Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

        That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...

        What's a good QB...one who wins games late or just wins games (0-7 or 5-10) so take your pick. Lots to prove yet...Hard to flame those stats...But go ahead, I like Arod, but no reason to get carried away making decorations for the bandwagon till we win some fucking games (5-10).
        But c'mon... our offense is dynamite in the second half what with a slew of 3 point performances in a row!!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Partial
          Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
          Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

          That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...

          What's a good QB...one who wins games late or just wins games (0-7 or 5-10) so take your pick. Lots to prove yet...Hard to flame those stats...But go ahead, I like Arod, but no reason to get carried away making decorations for the bandwagon till we win some fucking games (5-10).
          But c'mon... our offense is dynamite in the second half what with a slew of 3 point performances in a row!!
          Bob S., quit making excuses for your pathetic D. You should be worriying more about pending unemployment than trolling forums.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Patler
            Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
            Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

            That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
            No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

            4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
            He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
            He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

            If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

            As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.
            Yeah, and if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. If, If, If.

            They're plenty of reasons and blame to go around. The 0-7 stat is superficial and misleading. Then you throw up 4th quarter stats that show 6 TD, 5 int and an 80 rating. Not bad but certainly not good. He has done very well overall but end of games, he does share in the blame.

            5-10 are the numbers that bother me.

            No amount of rationalization can excuse this disaster of a season.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by esoxx
              Originally posted by Patler
              Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
              Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

              That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
              No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

              4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
              He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
              He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

              If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

              As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.
              Yeah, and if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. If, If, If.

              They're plenty of reasons and blame to go around. The 0-7 stat is superficial and misleading. Then you throw up 4th quarter stats that show 6 TD, 5 int and an 80 rating. Not bad but certainly not good. He has done very well overall but end of games, he does share in the blame.

              5-10 are the numbers that bother me.

              No amount of rationalization can excuse this disaster of a season.

              BINGO
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bretsky
                Originally posted by esoxx
                Originally posted by Patler
                Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

                That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
                No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

                4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
                He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
                He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

                If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

                As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.
                Yeah, and if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. If, If, If.

                They're plenty of reasons and blame to go around. The 0-7 stat is superficial and misleading. Then you throw up 4th quarter stats that show 6 TD, 5 int and an 80 rating. Not bad but certainly not good. He has done very well overall but end of games, he does share in the blame.

                5-10 are the numbers that bother me.

                No amount of rationalization can excuse this disaster of a season.

                BINGO
                Who's trying to rationalize anything? Just trying to bring some honest analysis to the situation. You know, trying to discuss what the real problems are rsther than looking for a single person to blame, which many seem to want to do. The ridiculous thing, especially in view of the events this year,is to say Radgers is 0-7. THE PACKERS are 0-7 in end of game situations. If you guys want to be honest about it, in several of those Rodgers actually didhis job, andothers failed. In several, Rodgers failed, too.

                It's just easier to blame TT, or Rodgers.

                By the way, iif an 80+ rating is so bad, then what do you have to say about QBs who have lower ratings than that for entire seasons? Or for multiple seasons?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Patler
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  Originally posted by esoxx
                  Originally posted by Patler
                  Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                  Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

                  That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
                  No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

                  4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
                  He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
                  He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

                  If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

                  As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.
                  Yeah, and if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. If, If, If.

                  They're plenty of reasons and blame to go around. The 0-7 stat is superficial and misleading. Then you throw up 4th quarter stats that show 6 TD, 5 int and an 80 rating. Not bad but certainly not good. He has done very well overall but end of games, he does share in the blame.

                  5-10 are the numbers that bother me.

                  No amount of rationalization can excuse this disaster of a season.

                  BINGO
                  Who's trying to rationalize anything? *You seem to be.

                  Just trying to bring some honest analysis to the situation. *Same here.

                  You know, trying to discuss what the real problems are rsther than looking for a single person to blame, which many seem to want to do. *Which I'm not doing. Who are talking about?

                  The ridiculous thing, especially in view of the events this year,is to say Radgers is 0-7. THE PACKERS are 0-7 in end of game situations. *Yes, the Packers are 0-7 in end game situations. They've also lost more games in a row than at any time since 1990. Ridiculous indeed.

                  If you guys want to be honest about it, in several of those Rodgers actually did his job and others failed. *There's that honest thing again. I thought I was being honest. Yes, he did do well in some end of game situations, some kicks were missed, some things went wrong. Good. So at the end of the day we're still 5-10 and I don't feel any better about it.

                  In several, Rodgers failed, too. *Yep

                  It's just easier to blame TT, or Rodgers. *Good grief.

                  By the way, iif an 80+ rating is so bad, then what do you have to say about QBs who have lower ratings than that for entire seasons? Or for multiple seasons? *I'm sure that's a loaded question but I don't think 80 is good. I never said it was "so bad." I'm guessing Favre's rating combined the past four years is under 80, is that the purpose of your question?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by esoxx
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    Originally posted by esoxx
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    Originally posted by SnakeLH2006
                    Personally I ain't whining for Brettie, but Arod has been pretty good till the 4th QT. He dissolves.... Stats don't lie. Rodger's 4th QT stats are abysmal, maybe not the sole reason we are 5-10 but it's not good: 44 QB rating in the 4th QT.

                    That is pretty damn bad. Dude is not clutch in ANY way. Hopefully he does better next year or in the future, but with that shit, he looks lost. Just saying...
                    No, his 4th quarter stats are not that bad:

                    4th quarter - 82/137, 955 yards, 6 TDs, 5 interceptions, 80.4 rating.
                    He has thrown for more yards in the 4th quarter than he has in the first and third quarters.
                    He has more TDs in the 4th quarter than he has in the 1st and 3rd quarters.

                    If Crosby had made the two FGs he missed, this would not even be a topic of discussion. If the defense also had held the leads Rodgers lead the team to in the last half of the 4th quarter, he would be considered to be doing a great job.

                    As Harvey pointed out, the "0-7" stat is hopelessly superficial and misleading.
                    Yeah, and if grandma had balls she'd be grandpa. If, If, If.

                    They're plenty of reasons and blame to go around. The 0-7 stat is superficial and misleading. Then you throw up 4th quarter stats that show 6 TD, 5 int and an 80 rating. Not bad but certainly not good. He has done very well overall but end of games, he does share in the blame.

                    5-10 are the numbers that bother me.

                    No amount of rationalization can excuse this disaster of a season.

                    BINGO
                    Who's trying to rationalize anything? *You seem to be.

                    Just trying to bring some honest analysis to the situation. *Same here.

                    You know, trying to discuss what the real problems are rsther than looking for a single person to blame, which many seem to want to do. *Which I'm not doing. Who are talking about?

                    The ridiculous thing, especially in view of the events this year,is to say Radgers is 0-7. THE PACKERS are 0-7 in end of game situations. *Yes, the Packers are 0-7 in end game situations. They've also lost more games in a row than at any time since 1990. Ridiculous indeed.

                    If you guys want to be honest about it, in several of those Rodgers actually did his job and others failed. *There's that honest thing again. I thought I was being honest. Yes, he did do well in some end of game situations, some kicks were missed, some things went wrong. Good. So at the end of the day we're still 5-10 and I don't feel any better about it.

                    In several, Rodgers failed, too. *Yep

                    It's just easier to blame TT, or Rodgers. *Good grief.

                    By the way, iif an 80+ rating is so bad, then what do you have to say about QBs who have lower ratings than that for entire seasons? Or for multiple seasons? *I'm sure that's a loaded question but I don't think 80 is good. I never said it was "so bad." I'm guessing Favre's rating combined the past four years is under 80, is that the purpose of your question?
                    The Packers are 5-10. BIG FRICKIN' DEAL!
                    Some of you people act like the world is coming to an end, or that you have been personally insulted, abused or wronged by it. AND BY GOD IT'S SOMEONE'S FAULT. Find that person, and all can be right again.

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                    • #40
                      You're obviously not talking to me so I will let it go. It's like you didn't read or comprehend anything I wrote.
                      Merry Christmas.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Patler
                        The Packers are 5-10. BIG FRICKIN' DEAL!
                        Some of you people act like the world is coming to an end, or that you have been personally insulted, abused or wronged by it. AND BY GOD IT'S SOMEONE'S FAULT. Find that person, and all can be right again.
                        If you guys break Patlers brain, I'm gonna start eliminating you systematically.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #42
                          Yeah, we won't want that to happen.

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                          • #43
                            Who cares about winning as long as the QB stats are good!!!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by esoxx
                              You're obviously not talking to me so I will let it go. It's like you didn't read or comprehend anything I wrote.
                              Merry Christmas.
                              Nor you mine, if you think I was rationalizing anything.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GrnBay007
                                Who cares about winning as long as the QB stats are good!!!

                                Jeez, another person who can't read.

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