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This post makes more sense than the others talking about DEs and LBs. I suppose if you get a near-sure thing stud OT--mobility in addition to power, he could be successful in the Packers version of ZBS--kind of a Clifton in his prime. I'm still not sure Thompson will see a need to use a high first rounder to get such a lineman, though, and although Monroe looks like a good one, even he is not very close to 100% to be an early success.Originally posted by packrulzTaucher is hurt, getting older, his contract is up, Clifton is getting old, his knees are shot, I think it's a no-brainer to take Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia. Moll hasn't done well replacing Taucher, College might be ok at right tackle but you need a stud that can protect ARod's blindside, or you can forget about the defense. None of these smurf DE's impress me, not in the top 10.
An outstanding cover corner is still the best bet. A lot of these mock drafts have Jenkins being gone by the Packers pick, but Vontae Davis sounds like he could turn out to be even better--assuming he doesn't get dragged down by character issues. I haven't heard anything negative about him, but he is Vernon's brother.
I say again, there's nothing wrong with the Packers D that getting back Barnett, Jenkins, and the various other injuries at full strength won't cure.
And hell yeah, there won't be any reason to talk about Bob Sanders in a couple of weeks. There's actually no damn reason now. Stock, on the other hand, may need to go, as special teams problems seem a lot less related to injuries and other bad luck.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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A lot of people now seem to think that Orakpo will be gone when the Packers pick. Football's Future has the Packers taking Jason Smith/OT/Baylor in the 1st round. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html With Tauscher an injured free agent and Clifton a free agent next year, it's a possibility. OT, DE and LB look pretty strong in the 1st half of the 1st round this year.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by JoemailmanA lot of people now seem to think that Orakpo will be gone when the Packers pick. Football's Future has the Packers taking Jason Smith/OT/Baylor in the 1st round. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html With Tauscher an injured free agent and Clifton a free agent next year, it's a possibility. OT, DE and LB look pretty strong in the 1st half of the 1st round this year.
Could happen, but it'd be disappointing to me to see a OT in round oneTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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It's natural for people to want to see defensive help drafted given what has happened this year. However, if TT feels the guy has the potential to be a standout LT, that could be hard to pass up.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by JoemailmanIt's natural for people to want to see defensive help drafted given what has happened this year. However, if TT feels the guy has the potential to be a standout LT, that could be hard to pass up.
TT's mojo is best available player; it would make me sick though.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Maybe, but what if the top couple of DE's are gone when the Packers pick? There probably aren't any DT's this year worthy of the #8 pick. I wouldn't mind trading down and taking Raji.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyDaren Colledge is going to be a standout LT.
They need defensive linemen like oxygen.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by JoemailmanMaybe, but what if the top couple of DE's are gone when the Packers pick? There probably aren't any DT's this year worthy of the #8 pick. I wouldn't mind trading down and taking Raji.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyDaren Colledge is going to be a standout LT.
They need defensive linemen like oxygen.
The Defensive Side of the ball needs young playmakers
LB, DE, DL, S....take your choice. One will be there at #10TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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I love ya Bretsky, but are you serious? Our #1 position we need an upfusion of talent in Tackle/OL...Damn I can't wait till we take a Joe Thomas type to upgrade the shoddy pass protects with the injured/old Tauchy/Cliffy combo and get someone that can open a hole for the RB's. For real, that needs to happen soon. This OL is a wreck and need a passrusher, but those take a year or two to develop, so I'd rather a stud ass OL in the top 10 right now by far. LB not so concerned as it's average, but the OL and DL are very much the cause of our digress in 2008. DL could come in FA if TT shows some nuts and gets one for the money....doubt it, but it's hard to upgrade with a rook on DL, but easily done on OL..Damn Joe Thomas was an All-Pro last year as a LT. Get one off them and we are set.Originally posted by BretskyOriginally posted by JoemailmanA lot of people now seem to think that Orakpo will be gone when the Packers pick. Football's Future has the Packers taking Jason Smith/OT/Baylor in the 1st round. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html With Tauscher an injured free agent and Clifton a free agent next year, it's a possibility. OT, DE and LB look pretty strong in the 1st half of the 1st round this year.
Could happen, but it'd be disappointing to me to see a OT in round oneSnake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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How many more years can we rely on Jenkins and Harrell to be healthy? We need to plan the off-season as if they won't be available. If they manage to stay healthy next year, that's a bonus. Montgomery has been here for a while now. I think what we see is what we get with him - just a guy. Jeremy Thompson should have some upside, but he didn't offer anything but a warm body on the field this year.Originally posted by texaspackerbackerI say again, there's nothing wrong with the Packers D that getting back Barnett, Jenkins, and the various other injuries at full strength won't cure.
DE is the biggest need on this team. DT is virtually the same story. You need three, preferably four, capable players to rotate and the Packers have one, Pickett, that they can rely on.
Whether these needs correlate to a #1 pick or not depends on who is available at the time. A promising LT would be hard to pass on. If someone at another position is head and shoulders better than the rest, then it could be a CB or even a TE. But at this point it looks like DE and LT could provide plenty of options in round one.#14
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That's a gamble I'm pretty uncomfortable with.Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyDaren Colledge is going to be a standout LT.
They need defensive linemen like oxygen.
I'd agree that LT is probably going to be Colledge's best position. I might go so far as to predict that he will be a capable LT. But standout? I'd put those odds at around 20%.
We've gotten burned a few years in a row waiting for the OL projects we draft to grow into their jobs. The results have been pretty sporadic (ahem...Campen...) and we've only added more projects. I agree that DL is the bigger need, but if there's a standout LT that feels like a safer pick then that's not a bad way to go either.#14
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Well said DH. The way things are shaping up, I think DE and LT are shaping up to be our best bets.
More specifically, I'd narrow it down (based on draft resources and youtube) to Everette Brown and Eugene Monroe.
After that; I think Terrence Cody DT, Jermaine Gresham TE and Vontae Davis CB have chances. I think Ted would take another stab at a fat ass DT even though it's always a huge risk. Ted has a little gambler in him.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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ESPN.com is listing two red-shirt sophomores on their draft list that could be intriguing to the Packers: DE Aaron Maybin from Penn State, and DT Gerald McCoy from Oklahoma.Originally posted by JustinHarrellWell said DH. The way things are shaping up, I think DE and LT are shaping up to be our best bets.
More specifically, I'd narrow it down (based on draft resources and youtube) to Everette Brown and Eugene Monroe.
After that; I think Terrence Cody DT, Jermaine Gresham and Terrence Cody have chances. I think Ted would take another stab at a fat ass DT even though it's always a huge risk. Ted has a little gambler in him.
JH, or anyone else, what's the story on those two? They're just on the list at ESPN - no description. I've seen Maybin a little bit, he's certainly been productive but I worry that he's a one year wonder. I don't really know anything about the kid from Oklahoma. It's also not a sure thing that these two a coming out this year.#14
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