Unofficial and Uninformed Defensive Coordinator Speculation

[Bossman641]

Sean McDermott sounds like the type of guy I would be after.

[Partial]

Pepper Johnson sounds intriguing to me. WWBBD

[HarveyWallbangers]

Good find, vince.

1) TODD BOWLES (DBs/Miami) - "Bowles, 45, is a former NFL player who has coached for Bill Parcells in both Dallas and Miami. He is regarded as a hard worker and a good teacher. The thing I really like about him is that he's not wedded to one specific system. He can coach either the 4-3 or the 3-4. He also has ties to the Green Bay organization. He worked in the personnel department under Ron Wolf (and alongside Ted Thompson) in the mid-90s.”

2) SEAN MCDERMOTT (DBs/Philadelphia) - "McDermott, 34, is the perfect choice if you're looking to find the next [Giants DC] Steve Spagnuolo. He's worked under Jim Johnson for 10 years. I also like the fact that he's coached multiple positions. His resume is very similar to those of Spagnuolo and [Ravens HC] John Harbaugh. That's a good selling point.”

4) CHUCK CECIL (DBs/Tennessee) - "Cecil, 44, would make a lot of sense. He played for the Packers from ‘88 to ‘92 and he'd get a strong recommendation from Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt, who happens to be very close with Thompson. Cecil is an extremely intense coach who would give any defense an instant identity. His only real negative is a reckless driving incident from earlier in the year."

I'd be disappointed if Sanders is retained. I'm not adverse to Winston Moss, but the three above are intriguing to me.

[SkinBasket]

Chuck's not black and fat, but I'll take him for the massive nostalgia factor. At one point I told people he was my real dad for a year or two.

[Patler]

1) TODD BOWLES (DBs/Miami) - "Bowles, 45, is a former NFL player who has coached for Bill Parcells in both Dallas and Miami. He is regarded as a hard worker and a good teacher. The thing I really like about him is that he's not wedded to one specific system. He can coach either the 4-3 or the 3-4. He also has ties to the Green Bay organization. He worked in the personnel department under Ron Wolf (and alongside Ted Thompson) in the mid-90s.”


4) CHUCK CECIL (DBs/Tennessee) - "Cecil, 44, would make a lot of sense. He played for the Packers from ‘88 to ‘92 and he'd get a strong recommendation from Titans GM Mike Reinfeldt, who happens to be very close with Thompson. Cecil is an extremely intense coach who would give any defense an instant identity. His only real negative is a reckless driving incident from earlier in the year."

Chuck Cecil an intense coach? Gee, who would have thought?

Bowles sounds interesting. Coaches who have flexibility are often the innovators of the next "new" philosophy. A new wrinkle in a defense (or offense for that matter) can often get the upper hand at least for a few seasons. That might make for an interesting transition.

[The Shadow]

Ok, time to trot out my Chuck Cecil story (my apologies to longtime Rats who have heard this one before :
I am looking at a handwritten note, dated 5-5-88, from then-GM Tom Braatz, thanking me for my earlier pre-draft letter regarding Cecil.
In my younger days, did a little scouting, and wrote to Braatz, informing him that Cecil (and his style of play) was worth taking a hard look at for the Packer's secondary.
The note mentions that "Blades, Gruber, and Dixon were gone when we picked" (on their board). "We did get Chuck Cecil for you. Thanks for your insight into the draft."
Just a trivial little incident, but whenever Cecil's name crops up, I feel warm and fuzzy.

[Bretsky]

THANKS FOR THE LIST

Some nice prospects on there, and I agree several more qualified than Moss.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think MM will change defensive coordinators.

The defense was fine in 2007. Did Sanders get stupid in 2008?

You can't scheme-around Alfred Malone & Jermey Thompson on the defensive line. Hawk had a very down year, perhaps due to injury, but also due to diminished line play. No Barnett.

Maybe Sanders should get a raise because of the excellent and improved play of the secondary.

[Bretsky]

I don't think MM will change defensive coordinators.

The defense was fine in 2007. Did Sanders get stupid in 2008?

You can't scheme-around Alfred Malone & Jermey Thompson on the defensive line. Hawk had a very down year, perhaps due to injury, but also due to diminished line play. No Barnett.

Maybe Sanders should get a raise because of the excellent and improved play of the secondary.

The defense was terrible in 06 before the last three puffcakes we faced on offense the final three games of the year; the press was writing about his release back then as well.

I fully supported the Corey Williams trade; nobody, including me, realized how much we would miss him.

Guys like C Williams, Jolly, Pickett, Jenkins..........they are all much better as a group instead of individuals. We had nobody who could give us what Williams did as part of that group last year.

Our predictable schemes just made the problems worse

[Harlan Huckleby]

Our predictable schemes just made the problems worse

They don't have a linebacker in that group who is any good at blitzing. What kind of scheme can overcome this?

you say predictable schemes, but the secondary was solid. they were doing something right.

in training camp, Hunter had emerged as the new secret weapon, the surprise blitzer/pash rusher. He turned out to crap in real games. What does that say about the other options?

They don't have any pass rushers anywhere in the front seven, except for Kampman. THAT is the problem. KGB died. Jenkins died. Hopes for the season died.

[Iron Mike]

Just a trivial little incident, but whenever Cecil's name crops up, I feel warm and fuzzy.

[vince]

Here's Fritz' man...

[pbmax]

Is it just me or did that entire blurb about Chuck Cecil seem to imply that the two best qualifications for Defensive Coordinator are being intense and friends with the GM's buddy? I am pretty sure this is how Jerry and Danny operate, not a team with any sense. Cecil may be the next Tom Landry, but this blurb tells me nothing.

[Bretsky]

Our predictable schemes just made the problems worse

They don't have a linebacker in that group who is any good at blitzing. What kind of scheme can overcome this?

you say predictable schemes, but the secondary was solid. they were doing something right.

in training camp, Hunter had emerged as the new secret weapon, the surprise blitzer/pash rusher. He turned out to crap in real games. What does that say about the other options?

They don't have any pass rushers anywhere in the front seven, except for Kampman. THAT is the problem. KGB died. Jenkins died. Hopes for the season died.

How about stunts on the DL or be the LB's ? How about a new look or occasional wrinkle ? If we have limited talent it makes it even more important that we are less Vanilla ?

[Packers4Ever]

We need somebody who is beyond criticism by the know-nothings who are out to get Sanders. The only name I saw mentioned like that is Fritz Shurmur.

I've left Fritz a message but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

I'm sorry, Swede, but I believe he never will. To my recollection, Fritz went out
to Seattle with Holmgren (in about '98?) for about a year, became ill and passed away from cancer. He was a much-loved DL coach and is still missed by many here.

Bless your heart. Your kind and gentle style make me sorry to behave so badly in here. I did of course love Fritz and his cerebral yet down-to-earth way. And I am fully aware of his too-early demise.

My comment was a sarcastic tweak.

Have a pleasant evening.

Not to worry, you didn't behave badly at all, just having a little fun.
Fritz was loved by many, it's too bad the good ones can't be recycled. But then we'd have to have a Poll first and commentary from each poster on the
candidate, and then..........

Never mind.......