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  • #46
    Thomas Jones has cast his vote:

    "The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that's just reality," Jones told the radio station. "If I were to sit here and say, 'Oh, man, it's OK,' that's not reality. ... I don't like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn't like it. If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game," Jones told Hot 97 FM. "You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not [fair]."
    In the same article, an anonymous Jet cast his vote:

    A veteran Jets player, quoted anonymously by Newsday, described Favre as a "distant" teammate who, when at the Jets' practice facility, spent his down time away from teammates in an office specially designated for him.

    "There was a lot of resentment in the room about him. He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone," the player told Newsday.

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    • #47
      The vote is this poll is 41-5 in the affirmative. Who could have predicted that 4 months ago? Like many I was conflicted at the time, but I certainly understood MM wanting to go with the QB who didn't need 5 months to decide if he wanted to play.

      When it became obvious that the Packers were going with Rodgers, I was hoping Favre would decide to stay retired. Now you have Jets players taking shots at Favre in the media. I wish even more now that Favre had stayed retired.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #48
        Damn...classy Jets players and classy "Packer" fans.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Partial
          So there you have it. The passing lane to the left is closed. He could possibly float it to Grant/Jackson/whoever that is, but with Strahan being so long and containing, he could EASILY make a play on that ball.

          Honestly with that view the pass doesn't look nearly as bad imo.
          There are two lanes to the left he can look through and that limit presumes he cannot see over the linebacker that the Fullback is blocking which is 3 yards away. There is nothing wrong with the pocket. What it does tell me is that Favre locked onto a receiver early in the pattern and took the single safety towards Driver. It could still have been completed, but the throw was not on target for the route Driver ran.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            We're in agreement that it wasn't a bad read, just a bad throw.

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            • #51
              I would agree with that assessment. If the ball is thrown 6 feet to the right, its at worst incomplete. Seeing the RB coming into the flat after chipping is not exactly easy with 4-5 dudes who are all 6'2+ and 300 pounds+ between you and the back. Just a bad throw at the worst possible time.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by pbmax
                Here is the pre-throw look from last year's championship game. One thing to remember about our Offensive Line was the way they out pass blocked the vaunted Logan Mankins led Patriots line versus the same Giants pass rush.

                So there you have it. The passing lane to the left is closed. He could possibly float it to Grant/Jackson/whoever that is, but with Strahan being so long and containing, he could EASILY make a play on that ball.

                Honestly with that view the pass doesn't look nearly as bad imo.

                That's Grant coming across the middle-that's where he should have gone and kept the drive alive.
                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                • #53
                  It might be "classy" to cover up for a player's goofs, but that isn't going to win games. Should MM be "classy" and keep Sanders out of the same kind of loyalty that some have to a washed up Favre? Or is it only with regard to Favre that we are supposed to be "classy."

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                    Originally posted by sheepshead
                    Could have done it a year earlier.

                    This picture makes me absolutely sick...I hope he just had a brain freeze during that
                    Why this picture is complete bullshit the ball is already in route there have been several others posted that show Grant wasn't even released when the ball was thrown the NFL is a game of split seconds three split seconds before that Driver had seperation and Grant was just releasing. It was a bad throw not a bad read as just about every so called expert has already stated.

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                    • #55
                      As to the original poll, I'd love to know how the seven people who thought Favre should have been kept think that Favre would have been better than Rodgers this year, and how possibly losing Rodgers would have been worth a battered, beat-down Favre at year's end. Oh, and also how Favre's annual retirement game would have been worth playing again after this season.

                      I'm not sure I can even imagine such reasoning, but I'd like to hear what's out there.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Fritz
                        As to the original poll, I'd love to know how the seven people who thought Favre should have been kept think that Favre would have been better than Rodgers this year, and how possibly losing Rodgers would have been worth a battered, beat-down Favre at year's end. Oh, and also how Favre's annual retirement game would have been worth playing again after this season.

                        I'm not sure I can even imagine such reasoning, but I'd like to hear what's out there.
                        Great question! I also am wanting to hear the answer.

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                        • #57
                          Why, so you can torment them with your charming personality?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            They ended up 6-10 so I'd say to start they either screwed up plenty of things as an organization and/or personnell

                            But letting Favre move on what not one of their screw ups; they made the right call.

                            Need to make plenty more right calls to leave the ship of mediocrity behind


                            I still say that the whole soap opera was a bigger distraction to the team then what has been let on.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by prsnfoto
                              Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                              Originally posted by sheepshead
                              Could have done it a year earlier.

                              This picture makes me absolutely sick...I hope he just had a brain freeze during that
                              Why this picture is complete bullshit the ball is already in route there have been several others posted that show Grant wasn't even released when the ball was thrown the NFL is a game of split seconds three split seconds before that Driver had seperation and Grant was just releasing. It was a bad throw not a bad read as just about every so called expert has already stated.
                              hey einstein-look at the pic pbmax posted. also-look at the size of the ball. It's large and that tells you that it just left favres hand. Look at Bretts right arm, he just then released the ball. Favre was comfortably in the pocket. I always thought Grant should have gotten the ball. I also contend that Brett made that throw, trying to force a big play and get the game over with and get out of dodge-he hated playing that game judging by his body language that day.
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                              • #60
                                I love how the people who are wrong on this site always hide behind the shimmering veil of decency when they were just as toxic before they were proven wrong.
                                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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