Chad Pennington: MVP?

[BallHawk]

I posted it cuz Favre took down one of the best defenses in the past 10 years.

I didn't post it to prove anything to anyone... I posted it cuz the comment he made, made me remember that game

Stop contradicting yourself.

[Lurker64]

Luck that he retires? Its lucky to get to watch him play because you wont see many like him. I think us "Favre-lovers" still want to see the man play though... no offense, but we dont care about the Packer fans that cant enjoy watching him play even if for another team thinks..


its really only people that hate him, that are sick of him.. whether it be because they dont know a good QB when they see him or think hes a diva or whatever the excuse they have is.. i still love watching him on Sundays and thats more than i can say about watching this years packers team play which is very disheartening..

Personally, I'm not at all sick of Favre. What I am sick of is the constant comparisons between Favre and Rodgers. As long as Rodgers and Favre are both in the league we're going to have the constant comparisons (not necessarily by Packer fans of) "where would the Packers be now with Favre" or "Favre threw 6 TDs today, and Rodgers only threw 3" or "Favre threw 3 INTs today, Rodgers didn't throw any". This sort of thing is stupid, polarizing, acrimonious, and unconstructive. I'd like to see it go away forever.

I'm sufficiently annoyed by this, that I'd be willing to sacrifice the pleasure of watching Favre play in his good games (and the unpleasantness of watching him play his bad games, and there will be more of the latter as he gets on in years.).

I think the healing in Packerdom can really start as soon as Favre rides off into the sunset at last. But it may require both that, and regime change at home, but hopefully not.

[Pacopete4]

I posted it cuz Favre took down one of the best defenses in the past 10 years.

I didn't post it to prove anything to anyone... I posted it cuz the comment he made, made me remember that game

Stop contradicting yourself.

your point?.... I didnt post it against Arod, against Pennington... anyone....


I posted it cuz a comment was made about how the Ravens D makes every QB look bad and that game is a big one that stands out for Favre over the years... whats your fucking problem pal

[BallHawk]

I posted it cuz a comment was made about how the Ravens D makes every QB look bad and that game is a big one that stands out for Favre over the years... whats your fucking problem pal

I don't have a problem.

Pal.

[Pacopete4]

Luck that he retires? Its lucky to get to watch him play because you wont see many like him. I think us "Favre-lovers" still want to see the man play though... no offense, but we dont care about the Packer fans that cant enjoy watching him play even if for another team thinks..


its really only people that hate him, that are sick of him.. whether it be because they dont know a good QB when they see him or think hes a diva or whatever the excuse they have is.. i still love watching him on Sundays and thats more than i can say about watching this years packers team play which is very disheartening..

Personally, I'm not at all sick of Favre. What I am sick of is the constant comparisons between Favre and Rodgers. As long as Rodgers and Favre are both in the league we're going to have the constant comparisons (not necessarily by Packer fans of) "where would the Packers be now with Favre" or "Favre threw 6 TDs today, and Rodgers only threw 3" or "Favre threw 3 INTs today, Rodgers didn't throw any". This sort of thing is stupid, polarizing, acrimonious, and unconstructive. I'd like to see it go away forever.

I'm sufficiently annoyed by this, that I'd be willing to sacrifice the pleasure of watching Favre play in his good games (and the unpleasantness of watching him play his bad games, and there will be more of the latter as he gets on in years.).

I think the healing in Packerdom can really start as soon as Favre rides off into the sunset at last. But it may require both that, and regime change at home, but hopefully not.

While I agree, I disagree... who cares what people say anyways? If Rodgers goes out and wins, he will be fine.. if he continues to struggle in crunch time, he will be treated just like every other QB in history to do so.

and the healing thing will not be right when he retires.. he wont have anything to do with packer nation until the snake is captured and killed... and possibly murphy gonzo to

[Gunakor]

On the other hand, it's not very enjoyable to Favre supporters to see him implode down the stretch, prompting a number of his teammates to say horrible things about him. I would think people do not want to see him keep playing if the man they see is the same man they saw in December.

Find me one Favre supporter that will tell me they don't want to see Brett play again and I'll show you a liar... Packer fans like you don't even deserve all the joy he brought to Packer fans

WTF Paco, I'm trying to keep things civil here. You don't even know me, so keep on attacking "Packer fans like me" as if you know who the hell I am in the first place and see where that gets ya.

Second, nobody wants to see Favre go out with a whimper. You figure me a Favre hater, and that's not the case. I am a Packer supporter. Favre brought plenty of joy to Packerland over the course of 16 years, but I do not get all sentimental about it. Legends come and go, but the team goes on. Those 16 years of memories belong in a Hall of Fame, not on a football field. The only thing on a football field that matters is what happens right now. This year. This year, Favre started out strong. I've complimented him on more than one occasion when he's played great. But down the stretch he has failed, costing his team a chance at the playoffs. He had a QB rating in the 50's for the month of December. Do you really expect that to significantly change should he come back again? Is that the way you want to see him go out? Do you see my point more clearly now?

[Pacopete4]

On the other hand, it's not very enjoyable to Favre supporters to see him implode down the stretch, prompting a number of his teammates to say horrible things about him. I would think people do not want to see him keep playing if the man they see is the same man they saw in December.

Find me one Favre supporter that will tell me they don't want to see Brett play again and I'll show you a liar... Packer fans like you don't even deserve all the joy he brought to Packer fans

WTF Paco, I'm trying to keep things civil here. You don't even know me, so keep on attacking "Packer fans like me" as if you know who the hell I am in the first place and see where that gets ya.

Second, nobody wants to see Favre go out with a whimper. You figure me a Favre hater, and that's not the case. I am a Packer supporter. Favre brought plenty of joy to Packerland over the course of 16 years, but I do not get all sentimental about it. Legends come and go, but the team goes on. Those 16 years of memories belong in a Hall of Fame, not on a football field. The only thing on a football field that matters is what happens right now. This year. This year, Favre started out strong. I've complimented him on more than one occasion when he's played great. But down the stretch he has failed, costing his team a chance at the playoffs. He had a QB rating in the 50's for the month of December. Do you really expect that to significantly change should he come back again? Is that the way you want to see him go out? Do you see my point more clearly now?

If his arm is fine, then hell ya I do because he was playing Brett Favre football during the time that he was healthy

but if hes really banged up, then its time to go retire before he hurts it worse than it is and cant finish playing the way he normally does.


Everyone always brings up his stats in the last few games of the season but he has an incredible record in Nov-Dec as a QB. Also, the majority of QB's stats do start to go down as the season wears on so its not a huge concern for me. He just needs to rest, see if hes healthy and if he is.. get his ass back on the field and get acquainted with all that talent in NY



oh and sorry for the attack.. im just not like you I guess. I cant be a dick or even talk the way you do about any player that has played for us that has left it all out there for us.. i just think its downright disrespectful

[GrnBay007]

Second, nobody wants to see Favre go out with a whimper.

I disagree with that. I'm not saying you are one of them by any means, but there are some Packer fans that are very angry at Favre and have enjoyed him not succeeding at the end of the season with the Jets. That has been my main "beef" with people. Just doesn't make sense to me.

This year. This year, Favre started out strong. I've complimented him on more than one occasion when he's played great. But down the stretch he has failed, costing his team a chance at the playoffs. He had a QB rating in the 50's for the month of December. Do you really expect that to significantly change should he come back again? Is that the way you want to see him go out? Do you see my point more clearly now?

Who was the poster (I'm thinking it was Leaper) who said the perfect scenario would be to have Favre start the season and have a good backup play the end of the season? He might have been on to something.

[vince]

im just not like you I guess. I cant be a dick or even talk the way you do about any player that has played for us that has left it all out there for us.. i just think its downright disrespectful

Harrell is a piece of shit..

[MJZiggy]

It doesn't matter. He'll be retired by the end of February anyway.

[GrnBay007]

im just not like you I guess. I cant be a dick or even talk the way you do about any player that has played for us that has left it all out there for us.. i just think its downright disrespectful

Harrell is a piece of shit..

Has Harrell played yet? :P

[Pacopete4]

im just not like you I guess. I cant be a dick or even talk the way you do about any player that has played for us that has left it all out there for us.. i just think its downright disrespectful

Harrell is a piece of shit..

Unwarranted? He is a piece of shit... hes no good and was/is lazy and hasnt done anything but cost us money and our trainers time... nice try though

[vince]

The unwarranted attack was on Gunakor. You call him a dick and Harrell a piece of shit - and at the same time, say you don't do that stuff because you "just think it's downright disrespectful."

[Pacopete4]

The unwarranted attack was on Gunakor. You call him a dick and Harrell a piece of shit - and at the same time, say you don't do that stuff because you "just think it's downright disrespectful."

you do know that I was talking about Justin Harrell the player right? and its completely different circumstances from saying Gunakor is being a dick about Brett Favre.... riiiiiiggghhhttt???

[BallHawk]

im just not like you I guess. I cant be a dick or even talk the way you do about any player that has played for us that has left it all out there for us.. i just think its downright disrespectful

Harrell is a piece of shit..

Unwarranted? He is a piece of shit... hes no good and was/is lazy and hasnt done anything but cost us money and our trainers time... nice try though

Yes, Paco, because when a player is plagued by injuries and can't see the field it makes him a piece of shit.

Of course he could be a good guy who is just unlucky. But, hell, he hasn't done anything for a team I happen to root for so I'll question his integrity and call him a piece of shit.

Nice one.