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    Jones: Favre's play warranted benching

    "We're a team and we win together ... but at the same time, you can't turn the ball over and expect to win," Jones said in an interview Tuesday with New York Hot 97 FM. Favre threw three interceptions in the Jets' season-ending 24-17 loss to Miami that clinched the AFC East for the Dolphins.

    "The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that's just reality," Jones told the radio station. "If I were to sit here and say, 'Oh, man, it's OK,' that's not reality. ... I don't like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn't like it.

    "If somebody is not playing well, they need to come out of the game," Jones told Hot 97 FM. "You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not [fair]."
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    "There was a lot of resentment in the room about him," a Jets player told Newsday yesterday. He requested anonymity because team owner Woody Johnson has stated publicly that Favre is welcome to return next season if he wants to. (Favre reportedly will take until the end of February to decide about returning.)

    The 39-year-old quarterback is not as welcome with his teammates, according to this veteran. After the Jets traded for Favre Aug. 6, the sure Hall of Famer made no effort to ingratiate himself with the already assembled team, the veteran said. He said Favre spent most of his down time at the practice facility in an office specially designated for him near the equipment room, not with teammates in the locker room, even after the media departed.

    "He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone," the player said. Asked to describe Favre in a word, he said: "Distant."

    On Monday, Kerry Rhodes said: "If he's dedicated and he wants to come back and do this, and do it the right way ... and be here when we're here in training camp and the minicamps and working out with us ... then I'm fine with it. But don't come back if it's going to be halfhearted or he doesn't want to put the time in with us."

    A foxsports.com report Sunday said Favre wasn't happy being called out by Eric Mangini in front of the team, as the coach did with all of his players when they made mistakes. But the Jet who requested anonymity said that didn't seem to be the case.

    "If [Favre] was hurt by that stuff, I'd be shocked, because Eric barely said anything to him," the player said. "Guys would be getting called out for missed assignments or blown coverages, and Brett would have three picks and no one would say a word."

    Mangini addressed the team for the last time Monday. The player said the former coach revealed a much different side than he showed before, telling players he'd been tough and aloof only to get the most out of them.

    According to the player - and he was backed by very supportive comments about Mangini from other Jets - very few in the room thought Mangini deserved to be fired, and that the acquisition of Favre and his subsequent "me-first" attitude hurt the Jets more than anything.

    "Eric," he said, "wasn't the reason we didn't make the playoffs."
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  • #2
    Put this in the Favre section where it belongs.

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    • #3
      interesting but not surprising

      he's earned nothing with the Jets; no free passes from players or from the media. Part of me thinks he will come back so it doesn't all end like it did in 2008
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        interesting but not surprising

        he's earned nothing with the Jets; no free passes from players or from the media. Part of me thinks he will come back so it doesn't all end like it did in 2008
        B, hasn't it been ending like this for some time? Not to incite a riot, but seriously, when was the last time he was playing his best football at the end of the season? Even the fast finish in the final four games of McCarthy's first year saw him throw 3 TDs and 6 INTs.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          Many have seen what you speak of; if you want a real riot, post it on a jets board and watch them explode...
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pbmax
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            interesting but not surprising

            he's earned nothing with the Jets; no free passes from players or from the media. Part of me thinks he will come back so it doesn't all end like it did in 2008
            B, hasn't it been ending like this for some time? Not to incite a riot, but seriously, when was the last time he was playing his best football at the end of the season? Even the fast finish in the final four games of McCarthy's first year saw him throw 3 TDs and 6 INTs.

            Ya, good point

            There is only one good ending and his best change to win a SB was to hang around Green Bay for a few more years

            Actually his good time to bow out was when he almost did

            Oh well, we got a 3rd rounder out of it
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • #7
              All you have to do is post the picture of the last play of the NFC Championship game and Jets fans will sadly shake their heads. I wonder if A-rod would've forced that pass, or hit the open safety valve for a good 10+.
              "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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              • #8
                Move this shit to the Favre thread or Garbage can!
                Baah

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                  All you have to do is post the picture of the last play of the NFC Championship game and Jets fans will sadly shake their heads. I wonder if A-rod would've forced that pass, or hit the open safety valve for a good 10+.

                  You follow the Volunteers ?

                  Is Justin Harrell ever going to be anything but horseshit for the Packers ?

                  Just curious as to your thoughts.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gex
                    Move this shit to the Favre thread or Garbage can!
                    Kinda hurts when the players are countering every arguement you BF worshippers made all year huh??

                    Welcome to the real world Brett...where you are actually held accountable.

                    I'm not trying to rub salt in this, but honestly, JH is looking pretty smart right now huh Gex??
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gex
                      Move this shit to the ,,,,Garbage can!
                      Is this another direct Thomas Jones quote?
                      Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        Originally posted by gex
                        Move this shit to the Favre thread or Garbage can!
                        Kinda hurts when the players are countering every arguement you BF worshippers made all year huh??

                        Welcome to the real world Brett...where you are actually held accountable.

                        I'm not trying to rub salt in this, but honestly, JH is looking pretty smart right now huh Gex??
                        I thought McCarthy ddid a good job on that front. Obviously he didn't take to the extreme that Mangini alledgedly had. Seeing this happen takes me back to when BRett threatend to retire if SHerman was canned. I think I'm beginning to see a clearer picture of why he made that threat.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
                          All you have to do is post the picture of the last play of the NFC Championship game and Jets fans will sadly shake their heads. I wonder if A-rod would've forced that pass, or hit the open safety valve for a good 10+.

                          You follow the Volunteers ?

                          Is Justin Harrell ever going to be anything but horseshit for the Packers ?

                          Just curious as to your thoughts.
                          Yea I go to a lot of the games, pretty big fan. I was excited about the Harrell pick beacause he was an absolute beast when healthy. However, what has carried over is the injuries. I'm pretty sure he missed time in high school, and I know he missed several games in college.

                          The fact is, a lot of the coaches for Tennessee remarked that Harrell was one of the best DT's ever to play for them. That's pretty high praise considering the company.

                          Edit: One thing I forgot, there was also a reason he wore #92 at Tennessee, no small honor.
                          "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bobblehead
                            Originally posted by gex
                            Move this shit to the Favre thread or Garbage can!
                            Kinda hurts when the players are countering every arguement you BF worshippers made all year huh??

                            Welcome to the real world Brett...where you are actually held accountable.

                            I'm not trying to rub salt in this, but honestly, JH is looking pretty smart right now huh Gex??
                            And me, thanks

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                            • #15
                              This is the truth unfortunately behind the man. Stuff like this (the "distance" Favre makes) has been reported for a few years out of GB. Favre lovers don't want to hear it, but it is the truth. Favre loved Sherman, because Sherman never held him accountable for his mistakes, when he really should have held him big time. It was the down fall of Ray Rhodes as well.
                              "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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