Sanders Fired

[pbmax]

It's possible to run 4-3 press coverage creatively, isn't it?

Remember Fritz and the Super Bowl team? That was man coverage. And when Fritz would rearely blitz, he would send Butler (safety) or the WILL (Brian Williams). It can be done.

One thing to keep in mind, even Fritz's 4-3 Under scheme had a very good D line. No matter who they hire, Thompson needs to get some lineman.

I am becoming more and more convinced he has the O line stocked OK. He may need another tackle.

[Zool]

I won't write off anybody really. It was Bob running the defense. You could be the best assistant coach in the game and look bad under a bad coordinator. If Moss were hired, I'd want to hear about his philosophy before making a rash judgement.

Three things I'm looking for in a DC.
1) 4/3 attack style scheme.
2) Leadership skills (this is what killed Bob).
3) Anybody not named Kurt Schottenheimer.

Gotta wonder how much say a new DC will have in his position coaches. I would assume quite a bit but might very well be based on his philosophy.

Maybe they got rid of Sanders now because Moss has that second interview?

[Bretsky]

#1 - I'm on board with Bresky's picture.

#2 - I'm on board with running a 3-4. I've stayed away from the arguments of switching to a 3-4, but I think we are in PERFECT shape to make the switch. Jenkins & Kampman are both 3-4 DE types. Pickett is a NT. That or Jolly. Our LB's are NOT great 3-4 type LB's, but I think with Barnett & Hawk's athleticism, Bishop could move to a 3-4 MLB, but neither Poop or Chillar would fit.

My opinion. I've heard many ESPN radio stations agree with that statement as well. That is where a Menuluga or Curry would fit in NICELY.

BINGO

AND BRING BACK THE BIKINI GIRLS in 2009 !!!!!

[pbmax]

#1 - I'm on board with Bresky's picture.

I second the motion that Bretsky's avatar be made larger. Enhanced, if you will.

[Bretsky]

I won't write off anybody really. It was Bob running the defense. You could be the best assistant coach in the game and look bad under a bad coordinator. If Moss were hired, I'd want to hear about his philosophy before making a rash judgement.

Three things I'm looking for in a DC.
1) 4/3 attack style scheme.
2) Leadership skills (this is what killed Bob).
3) Anybody not named Kurt Schottenheimer.

Gotta wonder how much say a new DC will have in his position coaches. I would assume quite a bit but might very well be based on his philosophy.

Maybe they got rid of Sanders now because Moss has that second interview?

MOSS will take a head job if it's offered to him regardless.

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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/01/04/sanders-out-in-green-bay/

Here it is on PFT....yes...it's true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mike Nolan would be an awesome choice. But....they'll probably end up hiring Moss for the job if he doesn't get it in St Louis.

I believe I saw on ESPN that Moss is being brought back to St. Louis for a second interview.

It was a report on NFL.com, but JSO is saying its not true here:

"Assistant head coach/linebackers coach Winston Moss could be a leading candidate to replace Sanders if he does not get the St. Louis Rams head coaching job. Despite an NFL.com report to the contrary, Moss isn't scheduled for a second interview with the Rams."

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/37069879.html

[pbmax]

I'd hate Williams. I'd be indifferent on Nolan. I'm indifferent on Moss also, but I don't see these other two guys as that great. I'd rather take a chance on some of those assistants that JSO pointed out the other day.

I'd be fine with the assistants as well; for the most part I'll be content to happy as long as we don't hire from within

Moss did study under Haslett, which gives him both 3-4 experience and if I am not mistaken, 4-3 experience from his time in New Orleans. And Haslett would know blitzing from LeBeau. There are worse than Moss available. I can't say he is a lock for greatness, but his lineage isn't bad.

what does studied under mean ? Moss studied under Sanders too....which is what worried me

That's the fun of choosing, isn't it? You hope he learned what is important in the 4-3 Over scheme but has different ideas about what to call and when. Also, different ideas about his position coaches.

What I am looking for is someone who, this season, could have transitioned to a different defense faster and better, since it was obvious we could run what we had planned after Barnett and Jenkins were lost.

[esoxx]

I'm guessing Moss got a token interview with the Rams to satisfy "the Rooney Rule." Sad but true.

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I'm guessing Moss got a token interview with the Rams to satisfy "the Rooney Rule." Sad but true.

Tend to agree. The only other non-coordinator off of the top of my head that got a HC job was Marinelli, and his defense was always tip-top. Moss? I don't see him having the same level of experience or name power within the league, but its possible that I am wrong.

[Joemailman]

I'm guessing Moss got a token interview with the Rams to satisfy "the Rooney Rule." Sad but true.

Tend to agree. The only other non-coordinator off of the top of my head that got a HC job was Marinelli, and his defense was always tip-top. Moss? I don't see him having the same level of experience or name power within the league, but its possible that I am wrong.

Add Andy Reid to your list.

Reports are that Moss is being brought back for a second interview in St. Louis. Doesn't mean he'll get the job, but their interest in him appears to be serious.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Moss said he is not married to Sanders' scheme, or the blitz-heavy strategy used by Jim Haslett, Moss' boss for six seasons with the New Orleans Saints.

"I'm more along the line of whatever players that you end of having, put them in a great scheme, put them the best possible position to make a play and then get the hell out of the way," Moss said.

[steve823]

Holy crap this just made my night..hell forget night it just made my week. Wow I didnt think they would do it but thank god. I wish they would go for someone who fits our scheme but someone that can blitz effectively. Maybe someone that has been under Jim Johnson?

[HarveyWallbangers]

If McCarthy wanted to use a 3-4, it would call for a lot of changes on the defensive line. Aaron Kampman is too light for end in that scheme, and doesn't have the right skills to be an outside linebacker. Likewise, Cullen Jenkins would have to gain weight. Both players likely wouldn't want to switch. They are very good players in their current positions.

Other options on the 4-3 track include former Jacksonville Jaguars coordinator Gregg Williams.

[GBRulz]

All I have to say is......

[ND72]

If McCarthy wanted to use a 3-4, it would call for a lot of changes on the defensive line. Aaron Kampman is too light for end in that scheme, and doesn't have the right skills to be an outside linebacker. Likewise, Cullen Jenkins would have to gain weight. Both players likely wouldn't want to switch. They are very good players in their current positions.

Disagree. First off, Jenkins is 305 lbs. Gain weight? Very inaccurate quote. Yes Kampman would be light, probably 15 pounds light depending on how they use him. But they could move him around as well, like the Patriots do with Richard Seymour.