Who Should TT Pick at #9?

[sharpe1027]

Me. I could use the guaranteed money that goes with a top ten pick.

Other than that, I would probably prefer a trade down or for a player, unless they were 95% sure of their pick. My guess is that many of the guys they will want will be available later on, but on the other hand, in order to trade there has to be a team that wants to move up. So they'll probably end up staying put and just taking the top guy on their board.

[Gunakor]

Monroe OT. We need some fresh blood and a mauler to open up the holes at tackle. By 2010, we'll need 2 new OT's anyway.

Not necessarily. We'll need one perhaps, but many project Daryn Colledge as a future LT for this team long term. And no telling how good Gia will be once they get his bulk up to match his frame - he's 6'7" and strong as an ox, but was much too light to be used in 2008. But that might not be the case in 2010. Truth is, we might already have both OT replacements on our roster. They're unproven, to be sure, but are no less proven in the NFL than any rookie we'd select in the first round.

[woodbuck27]

We need a RDE.

We don't need another WR.

We don,t need a tradedown but we'll see one.

GO PACKERS!

[BooHoo]

I am beginnin to get the vague sense that to get BJ (if that's Thompson's intention), he might have to slide up a couple of notches, perhaps at the cost of one of those #3's.

I would be a bit disappointed if TT traded up just to get a BJ.

We do not need a punter in the first round. At least wait until the third!

[Lurker64]

We need a RDE.

We don't need another WR.

We don,t need a tradedown but we'll see one.

GO PACKERS!

I don't disagree with anything you said here, but it puts us in an interesting position:

- One of our biggest needs is a second DE.
- There isn't a 3-4 DE prospect available (probably) that would be a top 15 pick, unless we pick him.
- We don't really need to trade down.

The best 3-4 DE prospect is probably Tyson Jackson, and he has a shot at being available in the second (or late enough in the first that we can trade up with our second and snag him). Unless we decided to take a guy who's a 4-3 UT and convert him to a 3-4 DE, in which case Peria Jerry is an interesting prospect, but again if we don't pick him he probably won't go until significantly later in the first. Raji could play either NT or UT in the 4-3, so it's conceivable (but weird) that we could draft him at #9 and play him at both DT and DE.

All that being said, we are potentially lucky that it looks like two guys who have played 3-4 DE with reasonable degrees of success are likely to hit FA this offseason, Chris Canty of Dallas and Igor Olshansky of San Diego. 3-4 DE isn't a huge money position, and we probably wouldn't have to chronically overpay for either guy, so it's plausible that Thompson might dip his toes into the FA waters and sign one of the two, in which case DE is less of a need. We would probably be fine going into the season with Jenkins/Pickett/(Olshansky/Canty) as our DL, and we'd just need to focus on backups in the draft. Mitch King is an interesting prospect, he played DT in college and is a little undersized, but he's a great effort guy and a penetrator, probably available in the fourth round or later and would be a good change of pace DE for pass-rushing downs.

[Waldo]

Mitch King is interesting because he is so much like Kampman. Came to Iowa as a LB (not quite as big of a recruit though, Kamp was seen as a recruiting coup for Iowa), then got moved to DL and bulked up. He's wont he Iowa hustle award, same as Kamp did as a player. IMO he's definitely worth a flier, start out as a situational rusher while losing the excess baggage, then moving to OLB eventually.

[Fritz]

I am beginnin to get the vague sense that to get BJ (if that's Thompson's intention), he might have to slide up a couple of notches, perhaps at the cost of one of those #3's.

I would be a bit disappointed if TT traded up just to get a BJ.

i wonder who he'd be trading up with to get the B.J. from?

[Fritz]

We need a RDE.

We don't need another WR.

We don,t need a tradedown but we'll see one.

GO PACKERS!

I don't disagree with anything you said here, but it puts us in an interesting position:

- One of our biggest needs is a second DE.
- There isn't a 3-4 DE prospect available (probably) that would be a top 15 pick, unless we pick him.
- We don't really need to trade down.

The best 3-4 DE prospect is probably Tyson Jackson, and he has a shot at being available in the second (or late enough in the first that we can trade up with our second and snag him). Unless we decided to take a guy who's a 4-3 UT and convert him to a 3-4 DE, in which case Peria Jerry is an interesting prospect, but again if we don't pick him he probably won't go until significantly later in the first. Raji could play either NT or UT in the 4-3, so it's conceivable (but weird) that we could draft him at #9 and play him at both DT and DE.

All that being said, we are potentially lucky that it looks like two guys who have played 3-4 DE with reasonable degrees of success are likely to hit FA this offseason, Chris Canty of Dallas and Igor Olshansky of San Diego. 3-4 DE isn't a huge money position, and we probably wouldn't have to chronically overpay for either guy, so it's plausible that Thompson might dip his toes into the FA waters and sign one of the two, in which case DE is less of a need. We would probably be fine going into the season with Jenkins/Pickett/(Olshansky/Canty) as our DL, and we'd just need to focus on backups in the draft. Mitch King is an interesting prospect, he played DT in college and is a little undersized, but he's a great effort guy and a penetrator, probably available in the fourth round or later and would be a good change of pace DE for pass-rushing downs.

If your girlfriend or wife said that about you, would that be a mild compliment or an insult?

[Gunakor]

We need a RDE.

We don't need another WR.

We don,t need a tradedown but we'll see one.

GO PACKERS!

I am confident that Jolly can play DE in the 3-4 opposite Jenkins. What we need right now IMO is a stud NT or a WOLB. Either of those would make me a happy camper.

[mission]

We need a RDE.

We don't need another WR.

We don,t need a tradedown but we'll see one.

GO PACKERS!

I am confident that Jolly can play DE in the 3-4 opposite Jenkins. What we need right now IMO is a stud NT or a WOLB. Either of those would make me a happy camper.

As a starter?! No way.. he's barely just a guy

[Lurker64]

Mitch King is an interesting prospect, he played DT in college and is a little undersized, but he's a great effort guy and a penetrator, probably available in the fourth round or later and would be a good change of pace DE for pass-rushing downs.

If your girlfriend or wife said that about you, would that be a mild compliment or an insult?

I think the "great effort guy and a penetrator" is a mild compliment, but it's faint praise when combined with "little undersized."

[mission]

Mitch King is an interesting prospect, he played DT in college and is a little undersized, but he's a great effort guy and a penetrator, probably available in the fourth round or later and would be a good change of pace DE for pass-rushing downs.

If your girlfriend or wife said that about you, would that be a mild compliment or an insult?

I think the "great effort guy and a penetrator" is a mild compliment, but it's faint praise when combined with "little undersized."

[The Shadow]

I am beginnin to get the vague sense that to get BJ (if that's Thompson's intention), he might have to slide up a couple of notches, perhaps at the cost of one of those #3's.

I would be a bit disappointed if TT traded up just to get a BJ.

i wonder who he'd be trading up with to get the B.J. from?

I think that a really stout nose tackle is the place to begin with the 3-4.
BJ looks like the guy.
The problem is his stock is on the rise, and even a Jacksonville (or even a team that does not at first glance seem to be looking in that diresction)could nab him before us.
Unlike previous years, where the roster needed to be greatly upgraded depth-wise, the Packers now need to concentrate on guys who are difference makers.
If he can be the key to a successful upgraded D-line, we need to get him.

[cpk1994]

I am beginnin to get the vague sense that to get BJ (if that's Thompson's intention), he might have to slide up a couple of notches, perhaps at the cost of one of those #3's.

I would be a bit disappointed if TT traded up just to get a BJ.

i wonder who he'd be trading up with to get the B.J. from?

Why trade when he can just buy one?

[The Shadow]

Why trade when he can just buy one?


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