"They've really got themselves a defensive staff"

[Rastak]

!= means not equal.

or

<> in some cases.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Bossman,

Yep.

Partial is living in his own dreamworld. Ty remembers the Cinderalla run that 01 squad had. Then, 8-20.

UNC had as many white stiffs as your average UW team.

Even the "talented" recruits didnt' really pan out: Jackie Manuel, Jawad williams, melvin scott.

It wasn't till the great 02-3 squad that they got some real talent: Sean May, ray felton, david Noel, rashad mccants. And, we all saw how quickly they supplanted the upper classmen.

Course, the immortal 3 year letterman Phillip Mclamb did invent "bar in a box."

[Tyrone Bigguns]

!= means not equal.

or

<> in some cases.

I'm familiar with the <> or the slash through the equal sign.

[Lurker64]

!= means not equal.

or

<> in some cases.

I'm familiar with the <> or the slash through the equal sign.

"!=" is popular in a lot of programming contexts since it's very simple to type and it's all low numbered ASCII. Most people's keyboards don't have a ≠ key.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

!= means not equal.

or

<> in some cases.

I'm familiar with the <> or the slash through the equal sign.

"!=" is popular in a lot of programming contexts since it's very simple to type and it's all low numbered ASCII. Most people's keyboards don't have a ≠ key.

Of course not, but most people are familiar with it..basic math. Most people aren't programmers.

[Waldo]

!= means not equal.

or

<> in some cases.

I'm familiar with the <> or the slash through the equal sign.

"!=" is popular in a lot of programming contexts since it's very simple to type and it's all low numbered ASCII. Most people's keyboards don't have a ≠ key.

=/= isn't too hard though.

[Packers4Ever]

As for Peppers being signed by the Pack, it would be a good get, but I don't see it happening. The Panthers can't franchise both Jordan Gross and Peppers, and since Peppers has already said he wants out, I'm guessing that the Panthers might just sign Gross to a deal and franchise Peppers, which means, "too rich for our blood". I don't see TT giving up the requisite draft picks to get Peppers. Also, Peppers is up and down. Who knows if his next team gets the kind of value back from him that they pay out to get him. He seems to take plays off, and that doesn't bode well for a big signing, big money guy.

CP, when you hear the warnings, sure sends out signals to me too! All this IS exciting to us when you think of 2007 and the changes we might have ahead but I kind of like solid but safe, myself...

[Patler]

Peppers has an unusually high number of "passes defensed" (36 in 7 years) and interceptions (4) for a lineman. It suggests (but is not definitive) that he is used in coverage with some frequency. Kampman's numbers for example, also for 7 seasons, are 8 passes defensed, 0 interceptions. Jason Taylor's for 12 seasons are 55 and 7.

[Pugger]

Re: &quot;They've really got themselves a defensive staff&am

My thoughts exactly. Lebeau rose up through the defensive backfield coaching ranks too, so is't safe to say he knows what he's talking about.

And he was a pretty good DB back in the day for the Lions, too. And why don't they take player shots like this one of LeBeau anymore?

They should. That's good stuff. Perhaps it's because it looks too much like:

Yes, Astaire was a geeky looking guy but if you really watch the way he danced - especially tap - he was spectacular and athletic.

[DonHutson]

I'm assuming (I could be wrong) that UNC told him he could play bball there when they were recruiting him.

I don't have an opinion either way about what Peppers playing hoops means for his suitability to a 3-4 defense.

I really doubt, however, that Carolina is giving away spots on its basketball team as a means to recruit football players. Mediocre by Tar Heel standards is still pretty damn good.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm assuming (I could be wrong) that UNC told him he could play bball there when they were recruiting him.

I don't have an opinion either way about what Peppers playing hoops means for his suitability to a 3-4 defense.

I really doubt, however, that Carolina is giving away spots on its basketball team as a means to recruit football players. Mediocre by Tar Heel standards is still pretty damn good.

Then you would be wrong. Peppers and Curry weren't given bball schollies and joined the team after the football season. Peppers role was as I and bossman stated....get rebounds down low and garbage baskets.

Peppers woulda had a hard time offering much to a low d1 program. He was a far cry from Gates and Gonzalez.

[Bossman641]

I'm assuming (I could be wrong) that UNC told him he could play bball there when they were recruiting him.

I don't have an opinion either way about what Peppers playing hoops means for his suitability to a 3-4 defense.

I really doubt, however, that Carolina is giving away spots on its basketball team as a means to recruit football players. Mediocre by Tar Heel standards is still pretty damn good.

I'm not sure why you would find this idea so far-fetched. Many schools tell 2 sport recruits that they'll give them the option to play 2 sports as an incentive to get them to go there.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm assuming (I could be wrong) that UNC told him he could play bball there when they were recruiting him.

I don't have an opinion either way about what Peppers playing hoops means for his suitability to a 3-4 defense.

I really doubt, however, that Carolina is giving away spots on its basketball team as a means to recruit football players. Mediocre by Tar Heel standards is still pretty damn good.

I'm not sure why you would find this idea so far-fetched. Many schools tell 2 sport recruits that they'll give them the option to play 2 sports as an incentive to get them to go there.

Quite true.

I recall that one of the losing selling points of Wisco was that they cut baseball. Many of the athletes wanted to be able to play that as their second sport.

[Bossman641]

In fact:

Determined to have his cake and eat it too, Julius focused on schools close to home that would allow him to suit up in football and basketball. He ultimately picked North Carolina, where coach Carl Torbush offered Julius a full ride for his gridiron skills, and had no quams with him walking on to the Tar Heels hoops team. Julius was delighted to be attending the alma mater of his hero Jordan.

[Merlin]

I'd give up the #9 pick for Peppers in a heart beat. At 9, there is no guarantee you're getting a good player, let alone a stud. The chances they get someone of Peppers level are very slim imo.

Peppers is a top 10 player in the NFL. That is the kind of guy you do what it takes to get.

Too bad you aren't the one negotiating for players for the Packers. I agree going to the 3-4 Peppers would be the right addition. We wouldn't want to make the "right" decision, we want to rebuild for another 2 years by going to the 3-4. That is the MO of Packers management. I think they are bringing in the right coaches but as has been pointed out numerous times, we don't have the personnel currently to pull this off and I doubt Thompson pulls the trigger on anything as big as Peppers.