McShay predicting a frustrating draft?

[DonHutson]

I'm thinking the best bang for our buck would be one of the OT's or Raji, but in McShay's new mock they're all gone.

1. Detroit - Matt Stafford
2. St. Louis - Jason Smith
3. Kansas City - Aaron Curry
4. Seattle - BJ Raji
5. Cleveland - Everette Brown
6. Cincinnati - Andre Smith
7. Oakland - Michael Crabtree
8. Jacksonville - Eugene Monroe

9. Green Bay - Malcolm Jenkins

Nothing wrong with Jenkins as a consolation prize, but he doesn't help the personnel transition on D at all. The other options would be Maybin or Orakpo. And I would be surprised if Jenkins falls to us as he predicts. I can see him going to Cleveland at #5, leaving us our choice of pass rushers (if your glass is half full) or stuck with one of the pass rushers (if you're wary that any of those guys is a top 10 player).

He has Maybin at #11 to Buffalo, Orakpo #13 to Washington, Brian Cushing #14 to Houston, and Tyson Jackson (an ideal 3-4 DE) to Tampa at #19.

He also posted a 2nd round that deprives us of some good options. He has Clay Matthews (#23 to New England) and Larry English (#24 to Atlanta) going in the first, and NT Ron Brace to Jacksonville at #39 - two picks ahead of the Pack.

So I was hoping for Raji and Matthews or English under my Christmas-in-April tree. My second choice would be J. Smith or Monroe with Brace in the 2nd. I guess McShay is telling me I was a bad boy. If Jenkins is still there, I'd be OK. But I'll believe that when I see it. I'm sensing a lump of Orakpo in my stocking.

[rbaloha1]

Under this scenario Maybin is the pick. Crabtree falling merits trade up consideration.

[wist43]

Crabtree won't fall that far, and I can't see Brown going in the top 10... I guess I could see him going in the top 10, but I don't consider him a top 10 pick.

[DonHutson]

Crabtree won't fall that far, and I can't see Brown going in the top 10... I guess I could see him going in the top 10, but I don't consider him a top 10 pick.

Hopefully, Seattle takes Crabtree. It would help if KC took Sanchez, but I kind of think they won't. Really any of the teams 5 - 8 could conceivably take Raji. Actually it wouldn't surprise me if he went as high as #3.

The best case scenario would be something like this:

1. DET - Stafford
2. STL - OT
3. KC - Sanchez
4. SEA - Crabtree
5. CLE - Curry
6. CIN - OT
7. OAK - Jenkins or Maclin, or something weird
8. JAX - OT/Raji
9. GB - Raji/OT

That's possible, but my gut tells me Sanchez is going to do an Aaron Rodgers and the Cheifs will screw everything up for us.

[Joemailman]

If McShay is right, then I think you take Orakpo or Maybin. Really though, I think Curry will be available when the Packers pick, and he would be perfect for one of the OLB positions.

I think the Browns take Jenkins at #5, and Seattle takes Crabtree at #4. That means that Jax takes Raji, and one of the OT's fall to the Packers.

[Joemailman]

Crabtree won't fall that far, and I can't see Brown going in the top 10... I guess I could see him going in the top 10, but I don't consider him a top 10 pick.

Hopefully, Seattle takes Crabtree. It would help if KC took Sanchez, but I kind of think they won't. Really any of the teams 5 - 8 could conceivably take Raji. Actually it wouldn't surprise me if he went as high as #3.

The best case scenario would be something like this:

1. DET - Stafford
2. STL - OT
3. KC - Sanchez
4. SEA - Crabtree
5. CLE - Curry
6. CIN - OT
7. OAK - Jenkins or Maclin, or something weird
8. JAX - OT/Raji
9. GB - Raji/OT

That's possible, but my gut tells me Sanchez is going to do an Aaron Rodgers and the Cheifs will screw everything up for us.

If Sanchez doesn't go 2-3, he falls to SF at #10. Perhaps TB at #19 wants him enough to trade their 2nd round pick (#50) to move up to #9. Packers could then trade their 4th round pick to move up the 2nd round a few spots. That would give them Tyson in the 1st round, Ron Brace early 2nd round, perhaps an OT at #50, and would still have 2 3rd round picks.

TT will thank me some day.

[run pMc]

Naturally, these lists will change by week, as each Pro Day passes and the combine arrive.

Having said that, I don't see Jenkins getting past OAK. They are going to have to make a decision on Nnamdi. If he's not there or Al Davis agrees with me that Javon is washed up Maclin is the guess.

Everette Brown at #5 seems high to me, unless he tests lights out...but I'm often wrong with these things.

Don't know if TT picks a NT like Raji at #9...my guess is he's gone by then. If TT picks Jenkins I don't think that's horrible...Al and Woodson have been so good for so long I'm wondering how long it can last. Last year many talked about boosting the CB depth and TT picked Lee. I'm not convinced that he's the heir apparent. I think TT needs to keep working on the OL & DL. I wouldn't be shocked if TT picks a guy like Cushing or Maybin to be a 3-4 OLB.

[SMACKTALKIE]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

[Zool]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

Same reason the Vikes drafted Peterson even though they had a 1200 yard RB on the team. If you can take a guy who's that good, you just do it and figure out where to put everyone later.

[Partial]

Jenkins would fill a huge need and be an immediate upgrade for the nickle spot.

How is that not immediately helping the transition? Al has at best one year left, if that, as he is borderline useless in zone coverage. Jenkins is a really nice corner prospect.

[Bossman641]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

Maybe I missed something that came out after the season. Was Jordy playing with injuries all year? Or did you mean James Jones?

[SMACKTALKIE]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

Same reason the Vikes drafted Peterson even though they had a 1200 yard RB on the team. If you can take a guy who's that good, you just do it and figure out where to put everyone later.

I hear ya. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if he made some sort of improbable, Randy Moss-like slide to no.22. I just see the Pack having more pressing needs on both lines.

[SMACKTALKIE]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

Maybe I missed something that came out after the season. Was Jordy playing with injuries all year? Or did you mean James Jones?

Perhaps I was wrong there, but I thought I read Jordy was fighting injuries this year.

[Joemailman]

Jenkins would fill a huge need and be an immediate upgrade for the nickle spot.

How is that not immediately helping the transition? Al has at best one year left, if that, as he is borderline useless in zone coverage. Jenkins is a really nice corner prospect.

You could certainly make a strong argument that Jenkins at #9 would be BPA. A lot of people think Cleveland will take him at #5. However, not since 2005 has a CB been taken in the top 10. Is Jenkins good enough to justify that high of a pick?

[cpk1994]

I can't imagine why the Pack would want Crabtree given their current WR crop. Especially if Nelson really was injured all season and may emerge this coming season.

Maybe I missed something that came out after the season. Was Jordy playing with injuries all year? Or did you mean James Jones?

Perhaps I was wrong there, but I thought I read Jordy was fighting injuries this year.

Jones was the one who was injured, not Jordy.