Favre plans to retire!

[Partial]

Trent Dillfer on ESPN just now, commenting on Brett Favre, said he may not be the best QB to have played the game, but in his opinion, he was the greatest football player to have played.
I thought that was nice.

That's what people in the know think as well, but those who are arm chair quarterbacks (and bad ones at that) seem to disagree (CPK, etc).

With that said, football got a little less fun today. I know half of you are all blind haters, but Brett Favre is the best thing to happen to the Packers ever. He saved them from mediocrity, brought them annual success, etc. We've already witnessed how a championship caliber team can fall apart without a strong quarterback. Hopefully we find out next Brett Favre within the next couple of years.

I wish him well and respect the hell out of him. He is a truly special football player who should have been allowed to go out with the Packers on his own terms.

[cpk1994]

Trent Dillfer on ESPN just now, commenting on Brett Favre, said he may not be the best QB to have played the game, but in his opinion, he was the greatest football player to have played.
I thought that was nice.

That's what people in the know think as well, but those who are arm chair quarterbacks (and bad ones at that) seem to disagree (CPK, etc).

With that said, football got a little less fun today. I know half of you are all blind haters, but Brett Favre is the best thing to happen to the Packers ever. He saved them from mediocrity, brought them annual success, etc. We've already witnessed how a championship caliber team can fall apart without a strong quarterback. Hopefully we find out next Brett Favre within the next couple of years.

I wish him well and respect the hell out of him. He is a truly special football player who should have been allowed to go out with the Packers on his own terms.

SHow me where I ever said he wasn't a great QB? Never happened. What I have said is that as a PERSON, I think he is a POS. As a PLAYER, yes he is an all time great. Have fun eating your foot jackass.

[packinpatland]

Trent Dillfer on ESPN just now, commenting on Brett Favre, said he may not be the best QB to have played the game, but in his opinion, he was the greatest football player to have played.
I thought that was nice.

That's what people in the know think as well, but those who are arm chair quarterbacks (and bad ones at that) seem to disagree (CPK, etc).

With that said, football got a little less fun today. I know half of you are all blind haters, but Brett Favre is the best thing to happen to the Packers ever. He saved them from mediocrity, brought them annual success, etc. We've already witnessed how a championship caliber team can fall apart without a strong quarterback. Hopefully we find out next Brett Favre within the next couple of years.

I wish him well and respect the hell out of him. He is a truly special football player who should have been allowed to go out with the Packers on his own terms.

SHow me where I ever said he wasn't a great QB? Never happened. What I have said is that as a PERSON, I think he is a POS. As a PLAYER, yes he is an all time great. Have fun eating your foot jackass.

Listening to all the different sports talk shows..........everyone saying what a great PERSON he is. I'm not hearing anything negative. 'Compassion for the game' says Jay Feeley. I like that. COMPASSION FOR THE GAME....


cpk1994, I think you're wrong.

[LP]

Brett Favre is not "the best thing to happen to the Packers ever". There is a reason Green Bay is called Titletown, and it's not because of the one championship won during his time there.

[Fritz]

Favre might've been the second greatest, or the third, but Lombardi is in my estimation the greatest.

Favre - what a great QB, for so many years.

[Partial]

"In a conversation ESPN's Werder had with Favre after the season and reported this morning, Favre conceded that he had an abundance of motivation to play for the Jets at the beginning of last season, most of it inspired by the spite he maintained for Packers general manager Ted Thompson for trading him.

Here's what Werder wrote: "Favre felt Thompson had taken Favre's team from him, believed it had become personal, described the Packers as dishonest and concluded that the most accomplished quarterback in history had been exiled to the Jets precisely because it was something of a football purgatory, where no championships had been won in the four decades since Joe Namath.

"They sent me to New York because they didn't play the Jets, they were 4-12, so they didn't have to play me, they knew we had very little chance of making the playoffs and they knew it was not likely that we'd have a better year than they did,'' Favre told Werder. "I was aware of all of that and more than up to the challenge because they felt they were shipping me off to Siberia and they'd never hear from me again. So was I coming back to play because I loved the game or to prove them wrong? Probably a little bit of both.

"Maybe initially I came back for the wrong reasons,'' Favre says now. "It was like, 'OK, they don't want me to play, then I'll play somewhere else and show them I can still play.'''

I still don't think we're getting the full story. Favre was given a raw deal, and I am glad he went out and led a team to a more successful record than the previous years' NFC championship caliber team. The current regime in GB is bush league at best, and should have been fired for the way they handled someone who has done as much for Wisconsin as BF. Unfortunately, the people that have to suffer the poetic justice are the fans, as I don't see GB fielding another contender like the Favre led 2007 squad anytime soon.

[cpk1994]

Trent Dillfer on ESPN just now, commenting on Brett Favre, said he may not be the best QB to have played the game, but in his opinion, he was the greatest football player to have played.
I thought that was nice.

That's what people in the know think as well, but those who are arm chair quarterbacks (and bad ones at that) seem to disagree (CPK, etc).

With that said, football got a little less fun today. I know half of you are all blind haters, but Brett Favre is the best thing to happen to the Packers ever. He saved them from mediocrity, brought them annual success, etc. We've already witnessed how a championship caliber team can fall apart without a strong quarterback. Hopefully we find out next Brett Favre within the next couple of years.

I wish him well and respect the hell out of him. He is a truly special football player who should have been allowed to go out with the Packers on his own terms.

SHow me where I ever said he wasn't a great QB? Never happened. What I have said is that as a PERSON, I think he is a POS. As a PLAYER, yes he is an all time great. Have fun eating your foot jackass.

Listening to all the different sports talk shows..........everyone saying what a great PERSON he is. I'm not hearing anything negative. 'Compassion for the game' says Jay Feeley. I like that. COMPASSION FOR THE GAME....


cpk1994, I think you're wrong.

And that is fine if you think I'm wrong But I happen to think as a person he is a pos, even more so after alst year. But I never said Favre wasn't a great PLAYER. Never.

[cpk1994]

"In a conversation ESPN's Werder had with Favre after the season and reported this morning, Favre conceded that he had an abundance of motivation to play for the Jets at the beginning of last season, most of it inspired by the spite he maintained for Packers general manager Ted Thompson for trading him.

Here's what Werder wrote: "Favre felt Thompson had taken Favre's team from him, believed it had become personal, described the Packers as dishonest and concluded that the most accomplished quarterback in history had been exiled to the Jets precisely because it was something of a football purgatory, where no championships had been won in the four decades since Joe Namath.

"They sent me to New York because they didn't play the Jets, they were 4-12, so they didn't have to play me, they knew we had very little chance of making the playoffs and they knew it was not likely that we'd have a better year than they did,'' Favre told Werder. "I was aware of all of that and more than up to the challenge because they felt they were shipping me off to Siberia and they'd never hear from me again. So was I coming back to play because I loved the game or to prove them wrong? Probably a little bit of both.

"Maybe initially I came back for the wrong reasons,'' Favre says now. "It was like, 'OK, they don't want me to play, then I'll play somewhere else and show them I can still play.'''

I still don't think we're getting the full story. Favre was given a raw deal, and I am glad he went out and led a team to a more successful record than the previous years' NFC championship caliber team. The current regime in GB is bush league at best, and should have been fired for the way they handled someone who has done as much for Wisconsin as BF. Unfortunately, the people that have to suffer the poetic justice are the fans, as I don't see GB fielding another contender like the Favre led 2007 squad anytime soon.

[Patler]

All of these "greatest Packer ever," "best player ever" comments are really pretty meaningless because those who make them have actual ecperience watching only a limited number of players or teams.

I remember the Lombardi Packers well, and yes Favre outperformed everyone on those teams. But it was a different era of football. I sometimes wonder how effective Favre would have been when DBs were allowed to mug a receiver until the time the ball was released, not just 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. Would he have thrown even more interceptions? I suspect he would have, because all QBs threw higher percentages of interceptions simply because coverages were so tight with the contact allowed. On the other hand, he could throw rockets into tight coverages as well. But that was an era when the strongest arm was not necessarily an advantage, consistent accuracy was. The QBs had to call their own plays, and the ability to do it well was often as important as the ability to throw. Maybe he would have been great. Maybe he would never have gotten past his first season or two. Maybe he would have been a linebacker, or safety in those days

How can anyone possibly compare any player today, with the rules today, with the game as it is; to some of the great two-way players of the 1940's and 1950's? Although I saw some of the last great two-way players, I certainly can't compare them even to those just 10 or 15 years before my memory.

In track, are the runners of today "greater" than those of the past just because they have better times? Are today's athletes the "greatest" ever, or do Jim Thorpe, Jesse Owens and others still merit consideration? Each can really be evaluated only within the era in which he competed, and perhaps a limited time before and after that time.

Is Favre one of the most impactful players of his or any era? Certainly. The greatest ever? Who knows.

[Lurker64]

Brett Favre is not "the best thing to happen to the Packers ever". There is a reason Green Bay is called Titletown, and it's not because of the one championship won during his time there.

Indeed. Favre was a hell of a player, but he wasn't even the best Quarterback to win a championship for the Packers.

Realistically, the best thing to ever happen to the Packers is the tremendous community support they receive from their fans and the City of Green Bay. It's an atmosphere unparalleled anywhere in professional sports.

[Guiness]

I to would like to see Favre retire with a one-day contract for the Packers.

And if the Jets believed that he was truly going to retire, I think they'd grant him that. The problem I see, however, is that the Pack and the Jets don't trust him to stay retired...

As far as I know, there's nothing to prevent him from signing that one day contract, retiring, and re-un-retiring come the fall - which is something neither team wants.

So short term, I agree that there's no chance he retires as a Packer.

[swede]

Favre was a hell of a player, but he wasn't even the best Quarterback to win a championship for the Packers.

Arnie Herber?

[retailguy]

Wait a minute...the Jets would owe the Pack a #1 pick if they traded him to an NFC North team this year. But what if he retires and later decides to come back? If the Jets then cut him - after all, by May they'll have his salary re-spent on other players mostl likely - he can sign on with anyone, right?

Hard not to notice the part of the article in which Butt Cook apparently asked the Jets "informally" if they'd consider releasing him...

I would think that part or all of his salary is guaranteed if he's on the Jets roster after a certain timeframe. If he decides to come back after that point and they cut him, they would still be on the hook for his salary putting them over the cap with dead money. Their only choice if he comes back late is a trade.

This right here should stop the "Favre to Minnesota" speculation dead.

Some mis-information here. Yes, it is true that the Jets own his rights and would have to release him in order for him to have the freedom to sign with anyone.

However, if he decides to come back, lets say, two weeks before the start of the season, then he tells the Jets he wants to be removed from the reserve/retired list. At that point, the Jets have a decision. They can do one of 4 things: 1 - persuade him to stay retired, 2 - trade him, 3 - activate him and absorb the cap hit, or 4 - release him.

The only instance where the salary becomes "guaranteed" by the Jets is #3. The salary becomes "guaranteed" in #2 by the new club that trades for him on the 1st day of the season.

The most important point, is that the Jets can avoid cap troubles by releasing him outright when he asks for reinstatement ( choice #4). Thats one of the options they have BEFORE there are any salary guarantees.

Oh, and somewhere else somebody stated that the Jets can "squat on his rights" until the contract expires is not exactly accurate. If he doesn't come back to play, that contract never "expires" right now it's on "hold". We saw that about 5 years ago when Deion Sanders was going to come back to play for Oakland when they went to the Super Bowl. Washington (I think) had to release him first, and then San Diego claimed him to prevent him from going to Oakland.

[MadtownPacker]

I can't believe the Jets made him make a decision so early....those bastards.

Really?? Does the make this forum A better place?? Or maybe you are no better than say pacopete with this shit?

[Guiness]

I can't believe the Jets made him make a decision so early....those bastards.

Really?? Does the make this forum A better place?? Or maybe you are no better than say pacopete with this shit?

Mad, I'm pretty sure that was meant in jest...I know I mentally inserted the [/sarcasm] tag there.

Yes, I'm tired of BF getting dragged into every thread too...but this was a thread about him.