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  • Bottom Line - Kampman is going to have trouble as 3-4 olb

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  • #2
    I think Kampman will do well. He's more athletic than people give him credit for and he did play some LB in college.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      Perhaps you may not have missed the missive, but Mad is very insistent that we not copy/paste stuff from the Journal Sentinel. They send angry letters and generally discriminate against us, and what you posted is probably not fair use.

      So in other words, this post is Garbage. If only we had some sort of Can where we could dispose of this kind of Garbage.
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      • #4
        Rbaloha

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        • #5
          Capers will find a way to incorporate a very good player into a viable scheme.
          Many posters think it's an all or nothing proposition with the 3-4, but there may well be plenty of leeway.
          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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          • #6
            haha mad is going to blow up when he see's this article... LINK IT... QUICKKK

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            • #7
              Considering the director of football operations for the Super Bowl champs running a similar scheme to the Packers provided the comments, maybe they should be strongly regarded.

              Specifically, where is Mr. Colbert wrong? Only time will tell if Colbert is correct about AK.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Rbaloha

                One word. Link.
                Sorry.

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                • #9
                  What I meant was you need to edit your original post. Delete the printed article and just post the link.

                  Edit: Well done!
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rbaloha
                    Considering the director of football operations for the Super Bowl champs running a similar scheme to the Packers provided the comments, maybe they should be strongly regarded.

                    Specifically, where is Mr. Colbert wrong? Only time will tell if Colbert is correct about AK.
                    He didn't say all of those players would struggle. He wasn't even specifically talking about Kampman. Bedard put those words in his mouth, and he happens to have been harping on this issue for awhile now. He's also been wrong a lot (e.g. I think he thought the Packers should bring in an old Jason Taylor last year, among other things). This is like Partial taking the one scout who said Rodgers was the 19th best QB to "prove" Rodgers was an average QB. There have been several "Kampman should succeed in this defense" articles. Dom Capers seems to think he'll be able to get the best out of Kampman.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #11
                      All Colbert said was that DE's making the switch to linebacker would have the toughest transition. Anytime you have a scheme change, some position is going to have the toughest transition. That doesn't mean it can't be done. In the case of Kampman, he's made a great career out of exceeding expectations. I wouldn't bet against him before he has a chance to take the field.
                      I can't run no more
                      With that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places
                      Say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                      A thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #12
                        Bedard does well as a journalist, but I think it's fair to say that Kampy will not disappear at OLB, as good players make plays (Madden quote). LOL.

                        Bedard is doing his job selling papers and web-ads to jsonline, that's all.

                        Kampy will be fine.
                        Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                        • #13
                          I would like to see Kampy stay at DE, he can beef up about 10-15lbs, he has a lot of moves at DE and the Packers aren't exactly stocked there. Poppy, Hunter, Thompson, and other guys can compete for OLB. Who else can they put at DE? I think it will be Jenkins/Pickett/Kampman as the front 3 and Poppy/Hawk/Barnett/Hunter as the 4 LBs with Chilliar as the darkhorse. Depending upon who TT drafts of course, I think it will be one of these 3: 1. CB Jenkins 2. OT Smith 3. DE Orakpo. Raji is ok but these other guys are better value at #9.
                          Thanks Ted!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by packrulz
                            I would like to see Kampy stay at DE, he can beef up about 10-15lbs, he has a lot of moves at DE and the Packers aren't exactly stocked there. Poppy, Hunter, Thompson, and other guys can compete for OLB. Who else can they put at DE? I think it will be Jenkins/Pickett/Kampman as the front 3 and Poppy/Hawk/Barnett/Hunter as the 4 LBs with Chilliar as the darkhorse. Depending upon who TT drafts of course, I think it will be one of these 3: 1. CB Jenkins 2. OT Smith 3. DE Orakpo. Raji is ok but these other guys are better value at #9.
                            Kampy would be miscast in a 3-4 at DE. 3-4 DE's generally are not pass rushers. They are run stuffers. They are block eaters. Kampy could do both of these things effectively I'm sure, but he's a pass rusher and in a 3-4 pass rushers don't put their hand in the dirt. To best utilize his skills as a pass rusher, they'll stand him up at OLB.

                            And in a 3-4, a solid NT is much more important than solid DE's. I like Pickett, but I don't think he can play 95% of the defensive snaps for a full 16 games. Raji is more than okay given our current need for a true NT to at the very least split time with Pickett and keep him fresh.
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                            • #15
                              Kampman

                              Kampman will have no trouble rushing the QB. In fact, I would expect him to be better due to having more space to work with. My worry with this change is that offensive coordinators will try to isolate Kampy in coverage.

                              To expect him to cover RB's in the flat would be insane. We've all seen Hawk have trouble with it. Poppinga could'nt cover a back to save his life. Even Barnett has had games where he was badly out-played in this area.

                              If you go back to all those 4th quarter blunders we had, take a look at how many of those games we lost because our LB's could'nt cover the flats. I believe Capers knows this is a major weakness. It is crucial, Thompson finds someone, either through the draft or FA at the other outside LB spot that can cover. This change won't succeed without it. You can hide one OLB with cover weakness as long as the other one has it as a strength.

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