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[PackerPro42]

Some unbelievable 40 times run this year. Wide outs:
Knox 4.25
Butler 4.26
Wallace 4.28
HB 4.29
Thomas 4.31
Underwood 4.32
McKinley 4.33
Murphy 4.33
Ogletree 4.37
Harvin 4.37

Heyward-Bey ran a sub 4.3? That's crazy. He's going to be a stud.

It's kind of funny because McShay was talking about how the CB prototype would have to change because of all these big WR coming out, but he never mentioned the speed.

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Some unbelievable 40 times run this year. Wide outs:
Knox 4.25
Butler 4.26
Wallace 4.28
HB 4.29
Thomas 4.31
Underwood 4.32
McKinley 4.33
Murphy 4.33
Ogletree 4.37
Harvin 4.37

I'm not sure where ya got those numbers, but NFL.com has them as:

Former Maryland WR Darrius Heyward-Bey posted the fastest official time Sunday at 4.30. His time is tied for the second-fastest mark among receivers since 2000, trailing only the 4.28 posted by Hampton’s Jerome Mathis in 2005. Kansas State’s Yamon Figurs also had a 4.30 time in 2007.

Five receivers posted sub-4.40 marks Sunday. Impressive.

Mississippi’s Mike Wallace had the second-fastest time at 4.33, followed closely by Abilene Christian’s Johnny Knox (4.34). Penn State’s Deon Butler (4.38) and Arizona’s Mike Thomas (4.40) rounded out the top five.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/22/heyward-bey-fastest-among-impressive-receivers/

[bigcoz75]

I posted them as they ran. I guess they were the unofficial times. Still some fast times ran by the WRs today not so much the RBs.

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I posted them as they ran. I guess they were the unofficial times. Still some fast times ran by the WRs today not so much the RBs.

Yeah, the consensus is that this the fastest group of WRs coming out ever. Moreno at 4.61 though? Eeek...

[bigcoz75]

Too bad for Moreno. Coming in he thought he'd be in the 4.4s. Thing is with the RBs running like they did no one really should be moving in their projections. No real standouts to move up and no meltdowns to knock them back. Just consistent slow times. Time to focus on pro days.

[bigcoz75]

My guy Terrence Taylor NT out of Michigan leading the defense in the bench with 37 reps.

Top performers

D-Line

Taylor, Terrance-37
Miller, Roy-------36
Veikune, David---35
Hood, Evander---34
Raji, B.J.--------33
Brace, Ron------32
Grady, Adrian----31
Magee, Alex-----30
Mitchell, Khalif---30

LBs

Orakpo, Brian----31
Cushing, Brian---30
Freeman, Marcus-30
Maiava, Kaluka---30
Felder, Anthony--28
McKillop, Scott---27
McKenzie, Tyrone 27
Brinkley, Jasper--26
Curry, Aaron-----25
Casillas, Jonathan 24
Robinson, Lee----24

[rbaloha1]

I posted them as they ran. I guess they were the unofficial times. Still some fast times ran by the WRs today not so much the RBs.

Yeah, the consensus is that this the fastest group of WRs coming out ever. Moreno at 4.61 though? Eeek...

The poor 40 time is hurting Moreno's draft slot thus millions. Moreno plays fast and is instinctive. Recall Emmit Smith had a poor 40 time. Moreno's running style is smilar to Smith.

Someone is going to get a steal.

[rbaloha1]

My guy Terrence Taylor NT out of Michigan leading the defense in the bench with 37 reps.

Top performers

D-Line

Taylor, Terrance-37
Miller, Roy-------36
Veikune, David---35
Hood, Evander---34
Raji, B.J.--------33
Brace, Ron------32
Grady, Adrian----31
Magee, Alex-----30
Mitchell, Khalif---30

LBs

Orakpo, Brian----31
Cushing, Brian---30
Freeman, Marcus-30
Maiava, Kaluka---30
Felder, Anthony--28
McKillop, Scott---27
McKenzie, Tyrone 27
Brinkley, Jasper--26
Curry, Aaron-----25
Casillas, Jonathan 24
Robinson, Lee----24

Maiava was over shadowed at USC but is excellent value as a 4th - 6th round pick. Special teams standout and linebacker on passing downs.

Veikune is similar to Travis Laboy of the Cardinals and would make an excellent late second - early third.

[bigcoz75]

I posted them as they ran. I guess they were the unofficial times. Still some fast times ran by the WRs today not so much the RBs.

Yeah, the consensus is that this the fastest group of WRs coming out ever. Moreno at 4.61 though? Eeek...

The poor 40 time is hurting Moreno's draft slot thus millions. Moreno plays fast and is instinctive. Recall Emmit Smith had a poor 40 time. Moreno's running style is smilar to Smith.

Someone is going to get a steal.

I like what Marshal Faulk said about Moreno after he ran a 4.54-4.66...

He says that's a 4.5 for 4 quarters. I completely agree, and I think anyone who thinks that .1 second means he will not make a good RB is a fool. Not just Moreno, but the 40 time is my least favorite drill. It's the "sexy" drill where players make their money, but there is so much more to base a prospect on.

[rbaloha1]

I posted them as they ran. I guess they were the unofficial times. Still some fast times ran by the WRs today not so much the RBs.

Yeah, the consensus is that this the fastest group of WRs coming out ever. Moreno at 4.61 though? Eeek...

The poor 40 time is hurting Moreno's draft slot thus millions. Moreno plays fast and is instinctive. Recall Emmit Smith had a poor 40 time. Moreno's running style is smilar to Smith.

Someone is going to get a steal.

I like what Marshal Faulk said about Moreno after he ran a 4.54-4.66...

He says that's a 4.5 for 4 quarters. I completely agree, and I think anyone who thinks that .1 second means he will not make a good RB is a fool. Not just Moreno, but the 40 time is my least favorite drill. It's the "sexy" drill where players make their money, but there is so much more to base a prospect on.

True. Moreno plays at the same speed from the first - fourth quarters. Acrobatic and improved pass receiving and blocking. Someone is going to be thrilled.

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Definitely. Moreno looks a step ahead of everyone while he's running. His vision, anticipation and agility remind me a lot of (gasp) ... #20.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Definitely. Moreno looks a step ahead of everyone while he's running. His vision, anticipation and agility remind me a lot of (gasp) ... #20.

I gotta go with Emmitt Smith, noone has resembled Barry Sanders in his running style at all. What Barry did with no semblance of an offensive line was pretty staggering.

[Lurker64]

Ian Johnson had a really quiet, really good day today.

4.46 40-yard dash (second among RBs, .01 seconds off the leader)
6.93 3-cone drill (eighth among RBs, .11 seconds off the leader)
4.18 20 yard shuttle (fourth among RBs, .1 seconds off the leader)
11.63 60 yard shuttle (fourth among RBs, .33 seconds off of the leader)
26 reps on the bench (fifth among RBs, 4 off the leader, more than Wells and Moreno).

Measures 5'11", 212 pounds. Broke Marshall Faulk's TD record in the WAC. Solid, team first, high character guy with a ton of production and some obvious physical ability. Definitely a potential pick, since Thompson seems to like the Boise state guys (he's one of the only GMs in the league to have picked up two guys from Boise.) Probably a guy who can be had in the 4th or the 5th.

[MJZiggy]

You guys do realize that you're going to do all of this analysis, argue it back and forth for weeks, and when draft day rolls around they're going to call out the #9 pick and you're all going to yell, "WHO??"

I'm just saying....

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Definitely. Moreno looks a step ahead of everyone while he's running. His vision, anticipation and agility remind me a lot of (gasp) ... #20.

I gotta go with Emmitt Smith, noone has resembled Barry Sanders in his running style at all. What Barry did with no semblance of an offensive line was pretty staggering.

That's probably more accurate. Moreno is definitely more of a straight ahead kind of guy but he does do a lot of "WOW" things. Unlike our own Ryan Grant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue6lflyI6wk&feature=related

Around 3:00 he pulls off some stupid Barry ish moves, but yeah, after watching this video, I see more Emmitt.