combine thread

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What about Jackson from LSU as a DE? Any word?

i want to say his unoffical was just under 5 seconds

not bad for a 300 pound 3-4 de

hell we may be able to pick up a DT, OT, CB, or whatever. and now still be able to pick up one of those 3-4 OLB's that some of us were debating over earlier, in the second round

it'll be fun to see just how much the mock drafts change after the combine

[Waldo]

After seeing the 40 times for the OLB/DE I don't see any in the first rd worth taking. Jason Hunter at 6'4" ran a 4.49 40. Who is already on your team. He would be a better fit then some like Brown who ran a 4.73 too slow for a OLB.
These are pathetic times for potential OLB
Orakpo, Brian 4.70
Johnson, Michael 4.75
Brown, Everette 4.73

It doesn't matter how fast they can run halfway down the field (within reason). It matters how fast they go from stance to their first step. The vert is the best measure of that.

[Fritz]

So, how is Orapko's vertical, Waldo? Do you like him?

What do you think of Raji as a nose tackle?

[Waldo]

Orakpo's 39.5" vert is very elite for his size.

And I love Raji as a NT. Good size, speed, and power combo.

Same reason I really dislike Brace. Too slow. He's got the size and power though.

I wouldn't take Brown though. His 31.5" vert is absolutely pitiful.

Maybin was good at 38". Johnson at 38.5", Barwin at 40.5", those guys will be able to get to the QB at the next level.

I'd take Orakpo over Raji, but Raji over the rest of the DE/OLB's

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Orakpo's 39.5" vert is very elite for his size.

And I love Raji as a NT. Good size, speed, and power combo.

Same reason I really dislike Brace. Too slow. He's got the size and power though.

I wouldn't take Brown though. His 31.5" vert is absolutely pitiful.

Maybin was good at 38". Johnson at 38.5", Barwin at 40.5", those guys will be able to get to the QB at the next level.

I'd take Orakpo over Raji, but Raji over the rest of the DE/OLB's

I know I'm in the minority here but I'm not so sure we need OLB depth as much as we are going to need DT/DE depth.

Raji would be great at pick #9, but do you draft for depth at #9? And if one of the big 3 LT's fell that would also be spectacular as well.

I see us going BPA again per Ted's board in round one and filling out the main needs in rounds 2 and 3. I could easily see the Pack drooling during their 2nd round pick when they see the plethora of D-line and Rush 3/4 backers still available early on. Barwin, English, Mathews Jr., Gilbert(pool freak), Ayers(I know I'm a Tennessee homer) etc.

I'm also from the school of thought that the Packers still need another quality RB. There will still be plenty of talent left in the 3rd/4th round. This should be a much more exciting draft than last year as the possibilities for the Pack are seemingly endless @ #9 and beyond.

[oregonpackfan]

top official DL times
Sidbury, Jr., Lawrence 4.64
Barwin, Connor 4.66
Brown, Everette 4.73
Johnson, Michael 4.75
Sulak, Stryker 4.77
Brown, Cody 4.84
Butler, Victor 4.84
Veikune, David 4.87
Gilbert, Jarron 4.87

Orakpo is grouped with the LBers and ran a 4.70

Oregon State's Victor Butler may be a real "sleeper" in the late rounds. Though he is just 6'2" and 240 lbs., he played DE for the Oregon State Beavers. In the Beavers' Sun Bowl win over Pittsburgh, he was named the MVP of the game.

He is too small to play DE in the pros but he might make a good OLB in a 3-4 defense. Here is a website on him:

http://www.elpasotimes.com/sports/ci_11347271

[The Shadow]

So, how is Orapko's vertical, Waldo? Do you like him?

What do you think of Raji as a nose tackle?

This sounds an awful lot like a spy code phrase, ala "wounds my heart with a monotonous langour".

Are you a 5th columnist, Fritzie?

[Lurker64]

Waldo, you seem to have a good handle on the DT prospects for this draft, what do you think of Myron Pryor, out of Kentucky? 6'0 1/4" 319, ran a 5.05, fairly productive player on a good defense (admittedly in an offensively challenged league). I have a buddy who played with him for Kentucky and he's keeps talking him up to me. I don't know much about him from unbiased sources though.

[Waldo]

Waldo, you seem to have a good handle on the DT prospects for this draft, what do you think of Myron Pryor, out of Kentucky? 6'0 1/4" 319, ran a 5.05, fairly productive player on a good defense (admittedly in an offensively challenged league). I have a buddy who played with him for Kentucky and he's keeps talking him up to me. I don't know much about him from unbiased sources though.

I like him. IMO he's got a real solid chance to make it as an A gap tackle in either a 4-3 or 3-4. He didn't bench so I'm not so sure how strong he is, but he seemed to play pretty well in school and can move well for his size. He'll be drafted and have a place on a roster as a rotational DT from the get go (or a year wait a la Jolly), but he'll find the field. Might never be a star, but the tools are there if he puts it together.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I gotta say, the more I see of Tyson Jackson the more I think he is the #1 3-4 DE on the board. If Raji were already gone I wouldn't mind seeing the Packers reach for Jackson @ 9.

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jenkins ran a slower time this morning. 4.52-4.58

[bigcoz75]

So a 4.6+ official time? Start up that safety talk again.

[bigcoz75]

What about Vontae Davis?

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don't know, i saw on pft jenkins times

combine coverage just started

edit: davis will be up soon

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vontae unofficial

4.43

he's an impressive looking guy. huge arms