combine thread

[bigcoz75]

Damn just saw his second run 4.43 and youre right he is huge. Those Clemson safeties are looking quick too.

[swede]

I DVR'd the combine and have been going through it as I've had time.

I was really impressed by Brian Robiske, the WR out of Ohio State.

He's 6'3'' and 209. I think his 40 was around 4.5 but he was a top performer in the vert and 20 yd shuttle.

He rocked during the gauntlet drill and didn't drop a pass all day.

Anybody else see this kid and think he stood out as a better receiver than some of the guys who were a mere 15 100ths of a second faster?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I DVR'd the combine and have been going through it as I've had time.

I was really impressed by Brian Robiske, the WR out of Ohio State.

He's 6'3'' and 209. I think his 40 was around 4.5 but he was a top performer in the vert and 20 yd shuttle.

He rocked during the gauntlet drill and didn't drop a pass all day.

Anybody else see this kid and think he stood out as a better receiver than some of the guys who were a mere 15 100ths of a second faster?

Sounds like somebody Thompson will take in the 2nd or 3rd round.

[packrulz]

Pat Kirwan has a new post combine mock out, I know some fans won't like it, but he was there and he gets insight into what teams are thinking. I think TT will pass on Raji, maybe he thinks he can get a NT later, but Kirwan thinks they like OLB Brian Cushing, USC. The more I think about it, the more I like it at #9, he is solid, he can play any LB spot, is strong, fast, and really has no question marks. Raji might be slow and lazy (ala Hunt), I'm not convinced he's good enough to be a #9 pick, the only other guy I would consider would be CB Vontae Davis. http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=...bine_wednesday

[red]

great

cushing came off as a giant duoche to me while watching the combine

[3irty1]

Bedard mentioned in the JSO blog that he'd already heard steroid whispers about Cushing.

[wist43]

Orakpo's 39.5" vert is very elite for his size.

And I love Raji as a NT. Good size, speed, and power combo.

Same reason I really dislike Brace. Too slow. He's got the size and power though.

I wouldn't take Brown though. His 31.5" vert is absolutely pitiful.

Maybin was good at 38". Johnson at 38.5", Barwin at 40.5", those guys will be able to get to the QB at the next level.

I'd take Orakpo over Raji, but Raji over the rest of the DE/OLB's

I know I'm in the minority here but I'm not so sure we need OLB depth as much as we are going to need DT/DE depth.

Raji would be great at pick #9, but do you draft for depth at #9? And if one of the big 3 LT's fell that would also be spectacular as well.

I see us going BPA again per Ted's board in round one and filling out the main needs in rounds 2 and 3. I could easily see the Pack drooling during their 2nd round pick when they see the plethora of D-line and Rush 3/4 backers still available early on. Barwin, English, Mathews Jr., Gilbert(pool freak), Ayers(I know I'm a Tennessee homer) etc.

I'm also from the school of thought that the Packers still need another quality RB. There will still be plenty of talent left in the 3rd/4th round. This should be a much more exciting draft than last year as the possibilities for the Pack are seemingly endless @ #9 and beyond.

Right now, my wish list has only two players on it... Raji or Orakpo.

Don't want Brown at #9, haven't done much scouting though... Raji and Orakpo are the only guys I've given the green light to.

Which, of course means TT doesn't even know they exist, lol

[KYPack]

Waldo, you seem to have a good handle on the DT prospects for this draft, what do you think of Myron Pryor, out of Kentucky? 6'0 1/4" 319, ran a 5.05, fairly productive player on a good defense (admittedly in an offensively challenged league). I have a buddy who played with him for Kentucky and he's keeps talking him up to me. I don't know much about him from unbiased sources though.

I know you addressed this question to Waldo, but this guy has an NFL motor. NFL size? A question mark, but i'd like to see us get him.

SEC offensively challenged?

What the hell?

[Fritz]

Guy's name is Myron, for crying out loud. You've got to get that guy.

[bigcoz75]

great

cushing came off as a giant duoche to me while watching the combine

I agree 100%.

I think Matthews will be the best LBer out of the three USC guys, but want none of them at 9.

[Fritz]

great

cushing came off as a giant duoche to me while watching the combine

I agree 100%.

I think Matthews will be the best LBer out of the three USC guys, but want none of them at 9.

Red - I've heard whispers that Cushing's sudden weight gain is suspect - he may be a combine hero but a football bust - but I wonder what you saw as his douche-esque qualities. I didn't watch any of the combine stuff or interviews, so I'd be curious to know more about why you think Cushing's douchability is off the charts.

[swede]

I've got Monday and Tuesday combine workouts recorded, but I haven't viewed them all yet.

I did see Raji's workouts. (And the video they're selectively pushing shows him to be a monster., although he might have been ovematching the same patsy over and over.)

The NFL Network crew called him up to the booth for some face time and I thought he smudged up the lines between being funny and confident and being an arrogant dick.

I think he's like Warren Sapp--I know Sapp's problem was specifically being a pot smoker, but teams questioned simply whether the talent was worth the aggravation of the personality. At this point I'd cross my fingers and take Raji if he dropped to #9. Not sure about TT.

Also, I haven't watched the linebackers yet. What makes Cushing seem like a bad guy? The early POV from the NFL media has made it seem like he's kind of a Hawk II.

[red]

great

cushing came off as a giant duoche to me while watching the combine

I agree 100%.

I think Matthews will be the best LBer out of the three USC guys, but want none of them at 9.

Red - I've heard whispers that Cushing's sudden weight gain is suspect - he may be a combine hero but a football bust - but I wonder what you saw as his douche-esque qualities. I didn't watch any of the combine stuff or interviews, so I'd be curious to know more about why you think Cushing's douchability is off the charts.

he was like one of the main featured guys for the nfl network. they did a lot of interviews and segments with him. and just the way he looked acted talked, well just about everything about him made me think, major asshole douchebag

and thats the first i heard about him and roids, i gotta say, that doesn't make me like him anymore

[Lurker64]

SEC offensively challenged?

What the hell?

It ain't the Pac-10 KY. I did watch the entirety of the 3-2 Auburn Ole Miss game this year... .

[Lurker64]

Don't want Brown at #9, haven't done much scouting though... Raji and Orakpo are the only guys I've given the green light to.

Unless Brown shows at his pro day that the 31.5" vertical leap was an anomaly, I don't think anybody is seriously considering him as a top ten pick. I think more people are considering him as Jamal Reynolds 2.0 at this point.

The combine demonstrated what we all feared about Brown, he's fast and he has a very quick step, but he has no power and he's the sort of guy who will get blocked by TEs, since his only pass rushing move is "run around you".

If I'm Thompson, I take Brown off my board for the first entirely.