Son of Packers coach charged with sexual assault

[digitaldean]

It was on the local GB news tonight there were 2 criminal complaints.

One girl said she was held down by another male teen after she said no to Philbin's request for a sex act. When she was held down Philbin had sex with her.

2nd girl was taken to the master bedroom and passed out. When she came to, Philbin was having sex with her.

Nothing was stated about the other male teen involved in this.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The guy is fucking 17 going on 18 when this shit happened. Those 16 yr olds girls where all up on a Packer coach son drunk and wanna cry rape. Not saying it aint true but I have my doubts so lets stop the fucking outcry over some young "ladies" who had no prob getting all fucked up and heading off with some dude at night. If it aint true I hope them and the girls parents get charged with something.

Before you start talking, you should get the facts. Young Mr. Philbin held a party at his parents house..with booze..which is against the law.

He and a friend took advantage of two young ladies who were too drunk to even know what was going on...including having sex with one that was passed out and "alleged that after Philbin helped her to the bed in the master bedroom, he undressed her and “performed an act of sexual intercourse on her without her consent.”"

These ladies hardly cooperated...unless you count being passed out as cooperative.

[MadtownPacker]

Before you start talking, you should get the facts. Young Mr. Philbin held a party at his parents house..with booze..which is against the law.

He and a friend took advantage of two young ladies who were too drunk to even know what was going on...including having sex with one that was passed out and "alleged that after Philbin helped her to the bed in the master bedroom, he undressed her and “performed an act of sexual intercourse on her without her consent.”"

These ladies hardly cooperated...unless you count being passed out as cooperative.

Wow, you are always so smart. We should just ask you everything so we can be intelligent too. It is so difficult living each day as an idiot.

And since when do people remember shit when they are passed out??

BTW - STFU with you PC behavior. I would bet you did some date rape shit in your time.

[falco]

BTW - STFU with you PC behavior. I would bet you did some date rape shit in your time.

hey tyrone has to get laid too

ps mad you way out of line homey

[digitaldean]

All I know is, if this goes badly for Philbin's kid, it opens up another whole mess for Joe Philbin.... meaning a lawsuit.

If the kid was underage at the time of the alleged assault, then the parents are legally responsible. I'm just saying that if my kids had a beer party at my house and something illegal happened or some harm took place to one of the people in the party, it's my butt that would be in a sling. If he was 18, it would be the "kid's" since he is legally an adult.

Sexual assault is all too prevalent...unfortunately, false accusations, in the long run, end up harming those who were truly assaulted.

FYI, the charges will amount to 3 years in prison if the max. is applied (if he is found guilty on all counts - 2 counts of battery, 2 counts of nonconsensual sex).

Regardless if these are true or false accusations, the levity attached to rape in this thread is pretty disgusting. I would attach false accusations of rape at the same level of the act of rape itself.

[KYPack]

This kid's life is half assed ruined.

agreed...much more difficult to overcome a rape charge than actually being raped

it was hard enough to get through your posts when I only thought of you as pretentious

Anything you say, Falco.

"pretentious", eh.

Have to remember that shit.

I think the prosecutor is being "badge heavy". The preliminary facts would indicate gross sexual imposition or similar charges. I'm not saying this kid was an innocent lamb, but this case seems less than rape by the intial stating of the facts.

[mission]

I always thought of KY as the cooler older dude who partied a lot in college -- now fat and married in Kentucky, voting Republican -- and knows a lot about linemen.

Not pretentious. That's more likely me.

[SnakeLH2006]

Let me be the first to mention Mark Chmura.

Not to defend Chuey, but with all the media Gilbert Brown got, perhaps the post SuperBowl Burger King advertising campaign went straight to Chuey's head.

[Fritz]

I always thought of KY as the cooler older dude who partied a lot in college -- now fat and married in Kentucky, voting Republican -- and knows a lot about linemen.

Not pretentious. That's more likely me.

You look closely at that avatar, you may see the hair being drawn back...KY may have a big ol' gray or white ponytail, too.

Never saw KY as pretentious, either. A cool, smart old coot who scares the crap outta the grandbabies when he squints at 'em, thought they know he loves 'em. He keeps a wad o' chaw in his cheek, too. Wife gets on him for that, I bet.

He's got a sh_tload of trophies from back in the day, but they're thrown in boxes in his basement or out in the pole barn somewhere.

[falco]

well, my gut feeling is to stand by my initial assessment, but if fritz and mission both say I am wrong, then perhaps I should rethink my position...

not apologizing KYPack, just letting you know I'm looking at you with an open mind now...

[falco]

ps maybe i misused the word pretentious? i think i know what it means, but i could be wrong.

[Fritz]

...and Falco stands up like a man.

BTW KY, not sure I can agree with your take.

And you, Mad - Tyrone pointing out that screwing a passed-out woman is rape is not "PC." It's basic humanity. Don't you remember that when you were a young buck and tried to get a girl drunk it was so she'd loosen up and want to get nasty? It wasn't so she'd pass out and not know what the hell you were doing.

And besides that, how flippin' sick and stupid is that, to do that sort of thing? Having sex with an unconscious person? That's not even sex - it's masturbation. You might as well just buy a blow up doll, for crying out loud.

[Patler]

I am judging neither the accused nor the reported victims in this situation, there is simply too much left unknown at this point. However, some random thoughts:

- Every parent's nightmare when leaving your nearly adult child alone for the weekend.
- Let's not automatically assume that the facts alleged in the complaint are true.
- OTOH, there are teenage males out there with screwed up views on sex.
- This wouldn't be the first time teenage males have forced themselves on someone.
- This would not be the first time a remorseful but willing girl tried to blame the guy.
- Finally, whoever is really at fault here has damaged the other for life. If the guys did what is alleged, there is no excuse for it. If the girls are falsely accusing the guys because they regret their willing participation, they will have branded these boys for life.

Whichever way it is, it is a truly regrettable situation.

[KYPack]

ps maybe i misused the word pretentious? i think i know what it means, but i could be wrong.

pretentious...

1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.
3. A jerk-off who thinks he or she is hot shit.

IOW, the one adjective that would light me up like a pinball machine. On PR we've all been called everything by now. I might have called some of others pretentious or something, but boy, I sure didn't like it when it pertained to me.

Thanks for the support fellas, I thought that shit was wrong mesself.

Well Falco, you didn't apologize, but the explanation was sufficient. I'll cancel my plans to draft your "receipt".

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Before you start talking, you should get the facts. Young Mr. Philbin held a party at his parents house..with booze..which is against the law.

He and a friend took advantage of two young ladies who were too drunk to even know what was going on...including having sex with one that was passed out and "alleged that after Philbin helped her to the bed in the master bedroom, he undressed her and “performed an act of sexual intercourse on her without her consent.”"

These ladies hardly cooperated...unless you count being passed out as cooperative.

Wow, you are always so smart. We should just ask you everything so we can be intelligent too. It is so difficult living each day as an idiot.

And since when do people remember shit when they are passed out??

BTW - STFU with you PC behavior. I would bet you did some date rape shit in your time.

Why would you ask me about living life as an idiot..when you have firsthand experience?

Passed out: Some do, some don't.

Date rape: I don't find that funny in the least bit...and at best it is a terrible thing to associate anyone with.