Son of Packers coach charged with sexual assault

[GrnBay007]

pretentious...

1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.
3. A jerk-off who thinks he or she is hot shit.

....well, you do strut around in that fancy white suit. :P

[KYPack]

pretentious...

1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious.
3. A jerk-off who thinks he or she is hot shit.

....well, you do strut around in that fancy white suit. :P

Ya got me there, double O.

No red socks, tho.

That would be pretentious.

[MadtownPacker]

And you, Mad - Tyrone pointing out that screwing a passed-out woman is rape is not "PC." It's basic humanity. Don't you remember that when you were a young buck and tried to get a girl drunk it was so she'd loosen up and want to get nasty? It wasn't so she'd pass out and not know what the hell you were doing.

And besides that, how flippin' sick and stupid is that, to do that sort of thing? Having sex with an unconscious person? That's not even sex - it's masturbation. You might as well just buy a blow up doll, for crying out loud.

Screwing a passed out woman aint what Im talking about. It is the instant taking of the accusers side BS that is sickening. This aint a grown man who got with a young chick. It is some stupid kids and someone is lying. Why is it surely the boy? I do remember getting drunk with young hens but they knew what was up and if any passed out the worse they got was their hair cut off or sharpie writing on their face. Now go look in the mirror and remember something bad you have done you guilty SOB.

[MadtownPacker]

I am judging neither the accused nor the reported victims in this situation, there is simply too much left unknown at this point. However, some random thoughts:

- Every parent's nightmare when leaving your nearly adult child alone for the weekend.
- Let's not automatically assume that the facts alleged in the complaint are true.
- OTOH, there are teenage males out there with screwed up views on sex.
- This wouldn't be the first time teenage males have forced themselves on someone.
- This would not be the first time a remorseful but willing girl tried to blame the guy.
- Finally, whoever is really at fault here has damaged the other for life. If the guys did what is alleged, there is no excuse for it. If the girls are falsely accusing the guys because they regret their willing participation, they will have branded these boys for life.

Whichever way it is, it is a truly regrettable situation.

Funny how Patler says things in a nice White way and you bitch ass MFers dont say shit to him. But he is basically saying the same thing I am. Nothing against you Patler I think this post is excellent and i totally agree.

[MadtownPacker]

Why would you ask me about living life as an idiot..when you have firsthand experience?

Passed out: Some do, some don't.

Date rape: I don't find that funny in the least bit...and at best it is a terrible thing to associate anyone with.

Yes I do have firsthand experience, lots of it. Scars and crashed cars are just some of the proof. Unlike you I can admit i have faults.

Daterape aint funny and if that turns out to be true then punish the kid but you have already decided to castrate him before he even steps into a courtroom. I know a dude that is registered sex offender because he fucked his high school sweetie when both where teens and now have to spend the rest of his life with that stigma cuz her parents charged him. Is that justice?

[falco]

Now go look in the mirror and remember something bad you have done you guilty SOB.

hey, don't talk to fritz like that he is one of the best (if not the best) poster on the board.

if i leave, no big loss, but if fritz leaves this place is worse off

[falco]

just think about that girl in cheech's car - if it wasn't for that damn zipper he would have been all over that

[falco]

ps, thanks for the definition kypack, that is what i thought it meant.

[Patler]

The guy is fucking 17 going on 18 when this shit happened. Those 16 yr olds girls where all up on a Packer coach son drunk and wanna cry rape. Not saying it aint true but I have my doubts so lets stop the fucking outcry over some young "ladies" who had no prob getting all fucked up and heading off with some dude at night. If it aint true I hope them and the girls parents get charged with something.

Before you start talking, you should get the facts. Young Mr. Philbin held a party at his parents house..with booze..which is against the law.

He and a friend took advantage of two young ladies who were too drunk to even know what was going on...including having sex with one that was passed out and "alleged that after Philbin helped her to the bed in the master bedroom, he undressed her and “performed an act of sexual intercourse on her without her consent.”"

These ladies hardly cooperated...unless you count being passed out as cooperative.

Tyrone;

Perhaps we all should wait for the facts before we judge. You have criticized Mad for simply questioning what happened, yet you are willing to condemn these boys when the full story is not known. Only one version has been given. How do you know what the real facts are? Are the things you identified as facts really facts just because they appear in a criminal complaint? There are literally hundreds of subsequently exonerated convicts who will disagree with that.

That is why we have trials, and why both sides are allowed to present their witnesses and testimony. Sometimes prosecutors have it completely wrong. More often I believe they have it right, or at least close to right, but not always. Sometimes prosecutors get carried away going after someone famous or semi-famous in an attempt to show they are fair and not giving "breaks" to anyone. Sometimes the famous and semi-famous think they can and should get away with things others do not.

There are many sides to be heard. Let's wait to hear them while acknowledging that whoever is the wrong-doer deserves to be punished.

[Patler]

Funny how Patler says things in a nice White way and you bitch ass MFers dont say shit to him. But he is basically saying the same thing I am. Nothing against you Patler I think this post is excellent and i totally agree.

Are you assuming for some reason that I am white? Interesting....

[Fritz]

And you, Mad - Tyrone pointing out that screwing a passed-out woman is rape is not "PC." It's basic humanity. Don't you remember that when you were a young buck and tried to get a girl drunk it was so she'd loosen up and want to get nasty? It wasn't so she'd pass out and not know what the hell you were doing.

And besides that, how flippin' sick and stupid is that, to do that sort of thing? Having sex with an unconscious person? That's not even sex - it's masturbation. You might as well just buy a blow up doll, for crying out loud.

Screwing a passed out woman aint what Im talking about. It is the instant taking of the accusers side BS that is sickening. This aint a grown man who got with a young chick. It is some stupid kids and someone is lying. Why is it surely the boy? I do remember getting drunk with young hens but they knew what was up and if any passed out the worse they got was their hair cut off or sharpie writing on their face. Now go look in the mirror and remember something bad you have done you guilty SOB.

Well, alright then. If you're pissed that people seem to be judging the young guy before anybody really knows, I'm with you. But the way I read your post, that wasn't what you were on about. You go back and read those posts, you mad man, and I think you'll see that it looks like you're defending the idea of getting it on with a passed out woman.

But if it's about innocent until proven guilty, then hell yeah. You are correct.

[pbmax]

Misunderstood post I was responding to, please move along.

[GrnBay007]

Plea coming: The attorney for Michael Philbin, the 18-year-old son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, has asked for a plea/sentencing hearing at which his client is expected to change his not-guilty plea to the four charges that stemmed from two alleged sexual assaults.



So there you have it.......things may have not gone down exactly as alleged in the complaint, but it was definitely enough evidence for the boy to not take a chance on a trial and take a plea.

Maybe he took the plea to avoid being labeled a sex offender for life had he lost in trial?

Doesn't matter....if he doesn't change his ways (seriously) it will catch up with him at some point.

[MadtownPacker]

Funny how Patler says things in a nice White way and you bitch ass MFers dont say shit to him. But he is basically saying the same thing I am. Nothing against you Patler I think this post is excellent and i totally agree.

Are you assuming for some reason that I am white? Interesting....

Well if you arent, dont let these rednecks know or they will suddenly doubt everything you say and try to imprison you.

Serio? You aint a gabacho?

[KYPack]

Plea coming: The attorney for Michael Philbin, the 18-year-old son of offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, has asked for a plea/sentencing hearing at which his client is expected to change his not-guilty plea to the four charges that stemmed from two alleged sexual assaults.



So there you have it.......things may have not gone down exactly as alleged in the complaint, but it was definitely enough evidence for the boy to not take a chance on a trial and take a plea.

Maybe he took the plea to avoid being labeled a sex offender for life had he lost in trial?

Doesn't matter....if he doesn't change his ways (seriously) it will catch up with him at some point.

When this thread was started, I thought they were gonna bring felony rape charges on the kid. They charged him with misdemeanor sex charges which are about right. The kid did wrong and he will cop to the appropriate punishment. The boy needs help, fer sure.

The two females weren't innocent little lambs, but the boys took advantage big time.

I think the thing worked out in the long run.