Packers express interest in Chris Canty

[Packnut]

Canty

Canty is a very good player who at age 26 should just be entering his prime. Actually, 7-8 million per year isn't that outlandish considering the way contracts are escalating.

True enough. We look at it from the angle of how over-paid these guys are, but the reality is in today's NFL it's just the way it is.

Ok, ya talked me into it. Give em 8 milion for 5 years with 20 million guarenteed.

[mission]

Im down for paying him 8 a year... he'd really help solidify our run D and make the transition to a 3-4 much easier.

We can't be counting on JH...

[Packnut]

Canty

I got a feeling if the Giants get him to come in, they'll get him. That would give them the best line rush in the NFL.

[mission]

Re: Canty

I got a feeling if the Giants get him to come in, they'll get him. That would give them the best line rush in the NFL.

Only hope there is possibly an unclear role as Osi and Tuck are both considered DE's aren't they? I can't see any of those guys wanting to play inside but I might have it all twisted...

[Waldo]

They need some depth dreadfully. I say bring him in.

What would be a fair deal for him?

Fair or realistic

Fair is 6 yr 30M, 12M guaranteed

Realistic is 6 yr 65M, 25M guaranteed.

Just the way it works.

Canty isn't getting anywhere near 6 for 65

Years 5-6 typically don't count. They make the deal look pretty and blow peoples doors off. The guaranteed money is what counts. 25M isn't quite half what big Al got. Remember, 4-3 teams are chasing him to play DE, that is his market, not 3-4 DE or DT. His deal will be compared to Allen more than Big Al.

[Farley Face]

They need some depth dreadfully. I say bring him in.

What would be a fair deal for him?

Fair or realistic

Fair is 6 yr 30M, 12M guaranteed

Realistic is 6 yr 65M, 25M guaranteed.

Just the way it works.

Canty isn't getting anywhere near 6 for 65

Years 5-6 typically don't count. They make the deal look pretty and blow peoples doors off. The guaranteed money is what counts. 25M isn't quite half what big Al got. Remember, 4-3 teams are chasing him to play DE, that is his market, not 3-4 DE or DT. His deal will be compared to Allen more than Big Al.

I know this is apples and oranges, and likely belongs in another thread, but "just" $20 mill guaranteed for our QB is starting to look like a bargain. Vilma got $17 mill guaranteed for pete's sake.

[Packnut]

Re: Canty

I got a feeling if the Giants get him to come in, they'll get him. That would give them the best line rush in the NFL.

Only hope there is possibly an unclear role as Osi and Tuck are both considered DE's aren't they? I can't see any of those guys wanting to play inside but I might have it all twisted...

My memory ain't what it used to be, but I believe Osi started out at OLB for them, at least that's the way I remember it.

[Waldo]

Re: Canty

I got a feeling if the Giants get him to come in, they'll get him. That would give them the best line rush in the NFL.

Only hope there is possibly an unclear role as Osi and Tuck are both considered DE's aren't they? I can't see any of those guys wanting to play inside but I might have it all twisted...

My memory ain't what it used to be, but I believe Osi started out at OLB for them, at least that's the way I remember it.

Kiwi

[red]

Canty's a big dude!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDz3B...ext=1&index=11

thats a great interview

sure as hell seems like the type of guy you would want on your team

[Packnut]

Re: Canty

I got a feeling if the Giants get him to come in, they'll get him. That would give them the best line rush in the NFL.

Only hope there is possibly an unclear role as Osi and Tuck are both considered DE's aren't they? I can't see any of those guys wanting to play inside but I might have it all twisted...

My memory ain't what it used to be, but I believe Osi started out at OLB for them, at least that's the way I remember it.

Kiwi

Thanks, at this point I'll try anything.

[Packnut]

Canty

Just reading some stuff and it appears everyone wants Canty. I think the only shot we got is a solid offer and for Dom to light Canty's cell phone up and tell him how he'll be a stud in his 3-4 D. Begging might work.......

[Waldo]

They need some depth dreadfully. I say bring him in.

What would be a fair deal for him?

Fair or realistic

Fair is 6 yr 30M, 12M guaranteed

Realistic is 6 yr 65M, 25M guaranteed.

Just the way it works.

Canty isn't getting anywhere near 6 for 65

Years 5-6 typically don't count. They make the deal look pretty and blow peoples doors off. The guaranteed money is what counts. 25M isn't quite half what big Al got. Remember, 4-3 teams are chasing him to play DE, that is his market, not 3-4 DE or DT. His deal will be compared to Allen more than Big Al.

I know this is apples and oranges, and likely belongs in another thread, but "just" $20 mill guaranteed for our QB is starting to look like a bargain. Vilma got $17 mill guaranteed for pete's sake.

It is a bargain. Those brainless GBPG and JSO robots have no ideal how incredibly good of a deal our QB is signed to. "Pulled the trigger too early"...."not worth the big bucks".....BS, AR's contract is a steal. He'd easily pull in 45-50M guaranteed in the current market. In FA $$ and draft picks, Aaron is one of the most valuable players in the NFL (he is worth at least 2 top 10 draft picks, if not more). I think that he is only trumped by Big Ben, Romo, Rivers, and Cutler in value, though his value is real close to Cutler's and Romo's.

[Waldo]

Re: Canty

Just reading some stuff and it appears everyone wants Canty. I think the only shot we got is a solid offer and for Dom to light Canty's cell phone up and tell him how he'll be a stud in his 3-4 D. Begging might work.......

IMO this is a strong indication that if Canty signs elsewhere a full court press is coming on Igor afterwards (the front has been silent there, no interest from 4-3 teams seemingly). Igor isn't as good, but he is much closer to Canty in quality than Jolly.

[MJZiggy]

Re: Canty

Just reading some stuff and it appears everyone wants Canty. I think the only shot we got is a solid offer and for Dom to light Canty's cell phone up and tell him how he'll be a stud in his 3-4 D. Begging might work.......

Can't he just say he's God and wants Canty to sign in Green Bay?

[Farley Face]

Re: Canty

Just reading some stuff and it appears everyone wants Canty. I think the only shot we got is a solid offer and for Dom to light Canty's cell phone up and tell him how he'll be a stud in his 3-4 D. Begging might work.......

IMO this is a strong indication that if Canty signs elsewhere a full court press is coming on Igor afterwards (the front has been silent there, no interest from 4-3 teams seemingly). Igor isn't as good, but he is much closer to Canty in quality than Jolly.

We already have one relatively high paid, by 3-4 standards, DE in Jenkins. Do we really want two (Canty, Igor)? Seems we should be paying the bucks to our OLBs (Kampman, whoever). You can't pay everyone. I agree we have a need at DE, but at what price? In a 3-4 front seven I'd rather allocate our dollars to a nose and the OLBs.