36 Mil to Spend: TT is going to stay skimpy on spending...

[packerbacker1234]

Like he has done every year since being here. With the salary cap era coming to what appears to be an end in the near future, with the shared revenue the nfl puts otu there to pay for salaries and all that jazz, TT yet again is choosing to just not spend money.

*sigh*

I am not saying be the jets last year. I am not saying turn into the redskins every year.

What I am saying is show some damn commitment to wining a Super Bowl. The only reason we even were close 2 years ago was because #4 came through in tight game after tight game. The defense wasn't very good that year save our two CB's, and yeah ryan grant was a surprise only after we had been an all passing team half the season.

Lets face it: TT has not shown one ounce of commitment to winning a super bowl, just commitment to making us a division competitior every year. I don't want to just dance around wining the division: I want another super bowl.

And, TT just doesn't look like he's comitted to get there. We have a young improving team. Great. AR got a golden boy contract after a few games.

Where is Jennings big deal? Why is our OL still a mess years after TT took over.

*sigh* It would just be nice for our GM to actually show in action that he actually wants to win a super bowl. This rebuilding crap has gotta just be thrown out the window. The great franchises out there just don't "rebuild". They have down periods, but they are still trying to get that ring.

[falco]

can't have your cake and eat it too

[Lurker64]

Go back and read this thread for example, written about a week into FA two years ago.

We sure did miss out on not signing Justin Griffith, didn't we?

So far we've only missed out on three guys I would have wanted on the roster in the first place.

I mean, a few guys I was interested in are off the market: Canty, Stinchcomb, Brown. But there's a lot of guys out there that are still available, get Olshansky or Haye and one of the safeties (I think Sensebaugh, Smith, and Phillips are all still available). Hell, Julius Peppers is still on the trading block.

It's too early to call the offseason over after the first weekend of free agency.

[The Shadow]

Re: 36 Mil to Spend: TT is going to stay skimpy on spending.

Like he has done every year since being here. With the salary cap era coming to what appears to be an end in the near future, with the shared revenue the nfl puts otu there to pay for salaries and all that jazz, TT yet again is choosing to just not spend money.

*sigh*

I am not saying be the jets last year. I am not saying turn into the redskins every year.

What I am saying is show some damn commitment to wining a Super Bowl. The only reason we even were close 2 years ago was because #4 came through in tight game after tight game. The defense wasn't very good that year save our two CB's, and yeah ryan grant was a surprise only after we had been an all passing team half the season.

Lets face it: TT has not shown one ounce of commitment to winning a super bowl, just commitment to making us a division competitior every year. I don't want to just dance around wining the division: I want another super bowl.

And, TT just doesn't look like he's comitted to get there. We have a young improving team. Great. AR got a golden boy contract after a few games.

Where is Jennings big deal? Why is our OL still a mess years after TT took over.

*sigh* It would just be nice for our GM to actually show in action that he actually wants to win a super bowl. This rebuilding crap has gotta just be thrown out the window. The great franchises out there just don't "rebuild". They have down periods, but they are still trying to get that ring.

tank?

[gex]

Re: 36 Mil to Spend: TT is going to stay skimpy on spending.

Like he has done every year since being here. With the salary cap era coming to what appears to be an end in the near future, with the shared revenue the nfl puts otu there to pay for salaries and all that jazz, TT yet again is choosing to just not spend money.

*sigh*

I am not saying be the jets last year. I am not saying turn into the redskins every year.

What I am saying is show some damn commitment to wining a Super Bowl. The only reason we even were close 2 years ago was because #4 came through in tight game after tight game. The defense wasn't very good that year save our two CB's, and yeah ryan grant was a surprise only after we had been an all passing team half the season.

Lets face it: TT has not shown one ounce of commitment to winning a super bowl, just commitment to making us a division competitior every year. I don't want to just dance around wining the division: I want another super bowl.

And, TT just doesn't look like he's comitted to get there. We have a young improving team. Great. AR got a golden boy contract after a few games.

Where is Jennings big deal? Why is our OL still a mess years after TT took over.

*sigh* It would just be nice for our GM to actually show in action that he actually wants to win a super bowl. This rebuilding crap has gotta just be thrown out the window. The great franchises out there just don't "rebuild". They have down periods, but they are still trying to get that ring.

tank?

Absolutly no need for that shit Grampa.

[Waldo]

Go back and read this thread for example, written about a week into FA two years ago.

We sure did miss out on not signing Justin Griffith, didn't we?

So far we've only missed out on three guys I would have wanted on the roster in the first place.

I mean, a few guys I was interested in are off the market: Canty, Stinchcomb, Brown. But there's a lot of guys out there that are still available, get Olshansky or Haye and one of the safeties (I think Sensebaugh, Smith, and Phillips are all still available). Hell, Julius Peppers is still on the trading block.

It's too early to call the offseason over after the first weekend of free agency.

I wanted Brown too, but he's been kinda foul, calling out his ex-team and teammates lately. Doesn't seem like the most mature fellow.

Stinchomb was real high on my list as well. Without knowing MM's plan for the line it's hard to say whether we would have had any interest. MM could be moving DC to T to pay the boy, and TT planning on drafting another T to start out at G. Stinch stayed home anyway, can't really compete with that.

Aside from having an experienced guy, I'm not real sure why we had any interest in Canty. He's good and all, but that is a lot of $$ to commit to a DL, so much that the guy becomes irreplaceable by contract (a player develops, so what, he can't beat out a guy that makes 7M a year). I'd much rather sign a mid level guy and push him with a higher draft pick (which we qalready have in Harrell, but could use another). Signing Canty is essentially giving up on Harrell for good, he has no chance ever to start in GB barring injury. Not sure I entirely agree with that. Igor or the other guys would be a different story, where they could be beat out by a superior player.

Phillis has been silent thus far. I wonder why. I surely wouldn't mind pursuing him. Leonard wasn't signed by the NYJ and is still on the market.

Peppers by far would be the best move we could make, if we could get him for less than #9. For a 2nd and 3rd I'd be all over it. For a 2nd and both our 3rds, I'd strongly consider.

I'm not entirely sold on Jolly being a bad DE. He sucked last year, but two years ago he beat out Cole, Williams, and Harrell, and dominated at times. What the heck happened? We've seen him do it. That boy needs coaching, bad, and an attitude readjustment, but his problems are not physical, which would always lead me to assume that they are correctable given the right environment.

[packrat]

This thread starts off with something that is just plain wrong--saying TT has chosen not to spend money. Canty's agent says the Packers weren't scared off by the price tag and the Packers made it clear they were interested in Canty. Too bad Canty wanted to go to New York and was just using the Packers to try to drive up the price. But that is not TT's fault. However, I'm glad TT is not throwing crazy money around because for every overpriced free agent we sign, it means we no longer have money for one of our players like Jennings or Collins, plus now we have discontent on the team because some new guy is being paid twice what other guys with similar performance are getting. Some people just want to bash TT without thinking what it takes to build a team for the long haul, given the constraints of the salary cap.

[Fritz]

TT has shown no commitment to winning the Super Bowl?

Sigh.

When did Chris Canty become a perennial All-Pro?

I know people get frustrated with Thompson because he doesn't run the team like a fan would.

I personally think he's an excellent GM. I think this will be proven to be so in the next two years.

And if he doesn't get this team on a consistent, winning track, he'll be out the door anyway, whether or not he signs a big name free agent.

[packrulz]

TT signed Woodson, Pickett, Chilliar, & etc. I think the Giants and Seattle overpaid. Olshansky, McFadden, and some others are still out there yet, give it a month.

[sheepshead]

TT has shown no commitment to winning the Super Bowl?

Sigh.

When did Chris Canty become a perennial All-Pro?

I know people get frustrated with Thompson because he doesn't run the team like a fan would.

I personally think he's an excellent GM. I think this will be proven to be so in the next two years.

And if he doesn't get this team on a consistent, winning track, he'll be out the door anyway, whether or not he signs a big name free agent.

Yeah Canty's a nice player, Nice presence. But what else can we do except call the guy. Call his agent and say hey we've got lots of dough up here lets talk. Maybe he has friends playing or coaching on the other teams. Agent says he'll get endorsements in a big city. Lots of reasons. Again, not necessarily anything our GM did wrong.

[Partial]

I don't care if he signs a premiere player, we need just need some depth at certain positions that cannot get filled through the draft unless he dedicates the first 4-5 rounds exclusively to defense.

[Fritz]

I think the GBPG summed it up pretty well: the agent wanted the Packers to make a ballpark offer before he'd commit to leaving NY (who very likely said "take it now cuz it might not be here later"), and the Packers refused to make a ballpark offer before they had teh guy in for a look-see.

It's the way TT does business, and it's kept them from having a bunch of Joe Johnsons and Terrell Owenses on the team and the payroll. It has frustrated many fans, too.

Personally, I like that the guy is fiscally responsible. I don't see manyif any huge free agent signings that put teams over the top. Reggie White, yes. But I'm having a hard time thinking of blockbuster free agent signings that absolutely were teh differences in a team getting to the Super Bowl.

I think free agents can help, for sure. But rarely do they provide the immediate impact (and one that can last for more than one season) people seem to think they do. It's a huge crapshoot.

I'd be okay with Olshansky. A guy who can fill in and compete, do the job, not cost too much. Give Harrell someone to compete with (if his back allows) and give the rookie they're sure to draft some time to develop.

I think the team can win 10 games this year with just a little infusion of talent. But I wouldn't mind seeing them make the big Peppers trade, either. Now there's a case of a guy who has the talent and would play a position that could make an immediate and obvious impact. I'd be thrilled if the Pack could on draft day trade down to the mid-first, pick up an extra second, then trade a second and third or the first to Carolina for Peppers.

Ah, my fantasy trade. I suppose in reality it would cost more than that, though.

[cpk1994]

Re: 36 Mil to Spend: TT is going to stay skimpy on spending.

Like he has done every year since being here. With the salary cap era coming to what appears to be an end in the near future, with the shared revenue the nfl puts otu there to pay for salaries and all that jazz, TT yet again is choosing to just not spend money.

*sigh*

I am not saying be the jets last year. I am not saying turn into the redskins every year.

What I am saying is show some damn commitment to wining a Super Bowl. The only reason we even were close 2 years ago was because #4 came through in tight game after tight game. The defense wasn't very good that year save our two CB's, and yeah ryan grant was a surprise only after we had been an all passing team half the season.

Lets face it: TT has not shown one ounce of commitment to winning a super bowl, just commitment to making us a division competitior every year. I don't want to just dance around wining the division: I want another super bowl.

And, TT just doesn't look like he's comitted to get there. We have a young improving team. Great. AR got a golden boy contract after a few games.

Where is Jennings big deal? Why is our OL still a mess years after TT took over.

*sigh* It would just be nice for our GM to actually show in action that he actually wants to win a super bowl. This rebuilding crap has gotta just be thrown out the window. The great franchises out there just don't "rebuild". They have down periods, but they are still trying to get that ring.

You do know that Jennings' agent has to agree before they can sign him, don't you? You also realize they don't need to rush to do Jennings deal, don't you?
Bottom line, saying TT isn't committed is falt out BS. This is the same tired shit, different year.

[Partial]

Re: 36 Mil to Spend: TT is going to stay skimpy on spending.

You do know that Jennings' agent has to agree before they can sign him, don't you? You also realize they don't need to rush to do Jennings deal, don't you?
Bottom line, saying TT isn't committed is falt out BS. This is the same tired shit, different year.

One could argue its the same tired shit that will result in yet another non-winning season for Thompson. This will be his 5th year on the job and the facts are he's had one winning season.

Now I don't believe in going out and spending the farm, but he needs to get some 3-4 ends in here, because we don't have any on the roster. They cannot go into this season with the same weak front 7 as last year. Olshansky and a cheap guy would be great, and would allow us to address other positions in the draft and would be pretty good value imo. All we really need there is a big guy that can hold against the run.

[cpk1994]

I think the GBPG summed it up pretty well: the agent wanted the Packers to make a ballpark offer before he'd commit to leaving NY (who very likely said "take it now cuz it might not be here later"), and the Packers refused to make a ballpark offer before they had teh guy in for a look-see.

It's the way TT does business, and it's kept them from having a bunch of Joe Johnsons and Terrell Owenses on the team and the payroll. It has frustrated many fans, too.

Personally, I like that the guy is fiscally responsible. I don't see manyif any huge free agent signings that put teams over the top. Reggie White, yes. But I'm having a hard time thinking of blockbuster free agent signings that absolutely were teh differences in a team getting to the Super Bowl.

I think free agents can help, for sure. But rarely do they provide the immediate impact (and one that can last for more than one season) people seem to think they do. It's a huge crapshoot.

I'd be okay with Olshansky. A guy who can fill in and compete, do the job, not cost too much. Give Harrell someone to compete with (if his back allows) and give the rookie they're sure to draft some time to develop.

I think the team can win 10 games this year with just a little infusion of talent. But I wouldn't mind seeing them make the big Peppers trade, either. Now there's a case of a guy who has the talent and would play a position that could make an immediate and obvious impact. I'd be thrilled if the Pack could on draft day trade down to the mid-first, pick up an extra second, then trade a second and third or the first to Carolina for Peppers.

Ah, my fantasy trade. I suppose in reality it would cost more than that, though.

Well said. I mean ask yourself, how many playoff games has Dan Snyder one will all his spending. WHen was the last time Jerry Jones's team won a playoff game with all his spending. When was the last time the Vikings won a playoff game with all their spending. TT has won a playoff game a lot more recently than all three of those big spenders.