Vonnie Holliday

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It has come down to discussing Vonnie Holliday? Really?

[KYPack]

I intended to post that in any such discussion, how much money is the major determining question. I see that's already being bounced around.

Considering how little Holliday likely has left in the tank, $3.3 million seems like way too much to me. It's just possible, though, that nobody would pay him even half of that. So if you get down to about a million or $1.5 million, then he'd be worth considering.

The league minimum is $840 per year for Vonnie.

He'll get 2.5 - 3 million a year.

[sheepshead]

The more of these signings I see, the more I'm glad TT has alligator arms.

[Patler]

Patler, I would imagine you can get Holliday's pay down to 2 to 2.5 per year if you let him twist in the wind a little. Not a big market for him, not as of yet. If you bring him in in, say, late March, and remind his agent how old Vonnie is, you can get him even cheaper.

I agree you can probably get him cheaper. I was just showing that $3.3 in "new money" is what he was scheduled to receive this year. That is probably something he would jump at immediately. Almost a "ceiling" for your dealings with him. As it gets closer to TC, some of these older vets sign for minimum contracts and minimum allowable bonuses, which is a real good deal for the teams.

[Bretsky]

It has come down to discussing Vonnie Holliday? Really?

We are the Packers, and it is free agency. Expectations are dam low

[Patler]

It is amazing what the escalated cap means to run-of-the-mill veterans.

The salary cap is now at $125+ million.
That usually covers somewhere around 60 players, depending on the size of IR. It also covers a handful at about $30k to $50k for the practice squad. Each team always has a bunch of players under 5-600k with players on their first contracts, street FAs at minimum contracts, etc..

It's not to hard to have 20 or more players at less than $1M each, leaving well over $100M for 40 or fewer players.

$2-3M is no longer a big contract for a credible veteran player you expect to play regularly.

[Joemailman]

According to Bedard, Packers are not one of 5 teams pursuing Holliday.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40709877.html

[Bretsky]

According to Bedard, Packers are not one of 5 teams pursuing Holliday.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/40709877.html

We think we're fine there and we're making every decision with the best long term interests of the Green Bay Packers