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  • #46
    Does any team give the green dot to anybody but a LB? I'm not sure there is. And if the Packers had Wilson, it wouldn't be him. He hasn't been close to being an every down LB.
    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Does any team give the green dot to anybody but a LB? I'm not sure there is. And if the Packers had Wilson, it wouldn't be him. He hasn't been close to being an every down LB.
      Some safeties have worn it but usually linebackers. Quentin Lake for the Rams from the list I am looking at.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post

        They were AND could have chosen to stay tight. But instead they either cut or let walk a long list of former starters. That's why Mike Tanier and all of CheeseheadTV are having an argument over whether this is a rebuilding year for the Packers. (Tanier is a yes, CheeseheadTV is a no and they have a season long bet on it).
        Its not a rebuild because the contracts they shed were guys not living up to it and we are likely to have players just as good at the positions. Its a calculated gamble that the conglomerate replacing Gary will be just as effective. Rhyan with some games under his belt will be as effective as an aging Jenkins (or monk or Burton). The CB room will overall be better without Hobbs contract since he lost the slot job to Bullard on a rookie deal. That the Franklin for Walker swap is a push. That Morgan can slide in for Walker without paying Walker (which we wouldn't have had to do). We made some changes but I wouldn't call it a rebuild, I'd call it natural evolution.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #49
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          I'm a little concerned they gave Franklin the green dot, which would suggest he'll be out there more than I'd like.
          He was miscast in Indy's D last year and good before that. As an early downs guy who can play the run etc. I'm fine with him. He's not a coverage LB. Quay had the physical gifts but not the instincts. Gannon is going to have to use Franklin better than Amaruno did last year, but I'm not sure you want him in coverage all the time. I'd have given the green dot to McKinney.

          Payton Wilson has managed to stay healthy, which is saying something for an overaged player with surgeries on both shoulders and a knee. In hindsight he sure looks a lot better than Hopper, who everyone thought was a reach. I'd have been ok with Hopper in R5, R3 is too rich.
          He was fully healthy his last 2 years of college I believe and its not like he's 30.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #50
            Originally posted by bobblehead View Post

            He was fully healthy his last 2 years of college I believe and its not like he's 30.
            Yeah, I think you're right. GB obviously has access to the medicals and info we don't, but if I HAD to take a LB in R3 I'd have taken either Cedric Grey or Wilson over Hopper. Actually, I wouldn't have thought about Hopper until R5-6. That being said, I've heard he's gotten better each year so maybe he'll turn into something, and I'm rooting for the kid. As of right now I chalk it up to another one of those weird R3 picks they seem to make every year. (Amari, Sternberger, Deguara, etc.)

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            • #51
              I didn't like either the Hopper or Savion Williams picks in the 3rd round. Thought both were too early. We'll see if either guy can prove me wrong.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                I didn't like either the Hopper or Savion Williams picks in the 3rd round. Thought both were too early. We'll see if either guy can prove me wrong.
                IMO Hopper was a reach and Williams a gadget guy, which you should wait until Day 3 or UDFA.

                If the new WR coach can turn Williams into a WR they could have something though. I'm rooting for the kid - seems like a good dude. One thing I'd actually like to see them do is use him on slants and short throws (especially on hot reads to counter blitzes) where he can use his size/speed/YAC ability. I realize defenses want you to throw short and then gang tackle, but I think he's at his best in open space with the ball so that would play to his strength. I don't think MLF calls a lot of stuff like this anymore. Even running mesh routes with him could be kind of fun.

                What I don't want are the obvious end around/jet sweeps and bubble screens. If they are going to call them they have to be sneakier about it. Defenses seem to know they are coming (MLF also calls them a lot so they are likely a film room focus)

                The 2027 WR class is supposed to be a good one. Personally I wouldn't mind them grabbing another WR. Without Watson or Williams, they have a bunch of sub 6' WRs now.

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                • #53
                  Guter does seem to make his most head-scratching moves in the third round. Let's hope "General" McClellan is not one of them.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Guter does seem to make his most head-scratching moves in the third round. Let's hope "General" McClellan is not one of them.
                    No, no, we can't use that nickname. He'll just land in the backfield and wait.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by run pMc View Post

                      IMO Hopper was a reach and Williams a gadget guy, which you should wait until Day 3 or UDFA.

                      If the new WR coach can turn Williams into a WR they could have something though. I'm rooting for the kid - seems like a good dude. One thing I'd actually like to see them do is use him on slants and short throws (especially on hot reads to counter blitzes) where he can use his size/speed/YAC ability. I realize defenses want you to throw short and then gang tackle, but I think he's at his best in open space with the ball so that would play to his strength. I don't think MLF calls a lot of stuff like this anymore. Even running mesh routes with him could be kind of fun.

                      What I don't want are the obvious end around/jet sweeps and bubble screens. If they are going to call them they have to be sneakier about it. Defenses seem to know they are coming (MLF also calls them a lot so they are likely a film room focus)

                      The 2027 WR class is supposed to be a good one. Personally I wouldn't mind them grabbing another WR. Without Watson or Williams, they have a bunch of sub 6' WRs now.
                      The only caveat is that Williams has to recognize the hot read as well. I have no idea what his football IQ is at this point. I didn't mind the pick because I compared it to Amari which was a smaller slower gadget guy.
                      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                      • #56
                        QB: (2) Love/Taylor
                        RB: (4) Jacobs/Brooks/Lloyd/Martinez
                        WR: (6) Golden/Moore/Reed/Watson/Williams/Neyor
                        TE: (3) Kraft//Whyle/Lackey
                        OL: (9) Monk/Rhyan/A. Banks/Williams/Tom/Belton//Kinnard/Morgan/Burton
                        DL: (6) Brinson/Brooks/Hargrave/Wyatt/McClellan/Stackhouse
                        EDGE: (5) Cox/Oliver/Sorrell/Van Ness/Dennis-Sutton
                        LB: (5) Cooper/Franklin/Hopper/McDuffie/Niemann
                        CB: (6) Melton/Nixon/St.-Juste/Valentine/Cisse/Jackson
                        S: (4) Bullard/McKinney/Oladapo/Williams
                        ST: (3) Smack/Whelan/Orzech

                        Musgrave gets traded or released.
                        I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          I didn't like either the Hopper or Savion Williams picks in the 3rd round. Thought both were too early. We'll see if either guy can prove me wrong.
                          I kept comparing Savion to Amari so I liked the pick. In a vacuum it seemed a couple rounds early. Amari, imo, was near undraftable from the jump. Small, slow and not elusive. A total product of an elite program.
                          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by run pMc View Post

                            IMO Hopper was a reach and Williams a gadget guy, which you should wait until Day 3 or UDFA.

                            If the new WR coach can turn Williams into a WR they could have something though. I'm rooting for the kid - seems like a good dude. One thing I'd actually like to see them do is use him on slants and short throws (especially on hot reads to counter blitzes) where he can use his size/speed/YAC ability. I realize defenses want you to throw short and then gang tackle, but I think he's at his best in open space with the ball so that would play to his strength. I don't think MLF calls a lot of stuff like this anymore. Even running mesh routes with him could be kind of fun.

                            What I don't want are the obvious end around/jet sweeps and bubble screens. If they are going to call them they have to be sneakier about it. Defenses seem to know they are coming (MLF also calls them a lot so they are likely a film room focus)

                            The 2027 WR class is supposed to be a good one. Personally I wouldn't mind them grabbing another WR. Without Watson or Williams, they have a bunch of sub 6' WRs now.
                            Those plays aren't designed to win downs. They are designed to force a D to honor them so we can win other downs.
                            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post

                              I kept comparing Savion to Amari so I liked the pick. In a vacuum it seemed a couple rounds early. Amari, imo, was near undraftable from the jump. Small, slow and not elusive. A total product of an elite program.
                              Amari was one time Gute drafted a "football player" instead of a RAS stud. Had over 1000 yards receiving his last year at Clemson and a 5.37 RAS score.
                              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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