""WAITING GAME CONTINUES""

[MJZiggy]

Come on man..how about a comment? an original thought? You're starting a thread for petes sake

It was the B-Man

He's thinking about 8-ways.

Lesbian 8 ways. The devil is in the details.

[Packnut]

TT

i got a new theory

its based on what we saw about the pats giving away cassell for peanuts to the broncos. many people think good ole bill was doing his old buddy a favor by giving away cassel for cheap, and paying him back for all the good things he's did for the patriots

maybe thats what we did with ted thompson?

maybe bob harlan wanted to pay back holmgren for all the years of hard work and the good job he did with the packers. maybe bob did mike a giant favor by taking TT off his hands for him?

I think Thompson is an excellent GM, and I believe the record will reflect this in the next two years.

And if it doesn't, he'll likely be fired anyway.

Yep, Teddy's a stud. Giving Poppinga all that cash was just a brilliant stroke. Popp really earned it last season right?

Ya gotta love the Harrell move. Everyone and his brother knew the guy was damaged goods but Teddy knew better. Yeah he really showed his GM skills on that one. I remember touting Bowe and Nelson BEFORE that draft. With Nelson, Woodson does'nt play saftey and we would'nt STILL be looking for a saftey now, but hey what do I know?

Speaking of more Teddy genious, how about seeing with his own eyes at the end of the 2007 season how we could'nt generate a pass rush or stop the run. So like a good GM, he saw the problem and took steps to fix it right? Let's see, how much cash did keeping KGB cost us? Come to think of it, between Popp's contract and KGB, we might have actually been able to afford a FA. Why get in a bidding war when we can waste that money in house?

I could go on and on with FACT after FACT after FACT, but what's the use. Some believe producing a 6-10 team and having all the holes we have now after 4 years is being an "excellent" GM. Then there are some of us who believe the team we love deserves better.

[HarveyWallbangers]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090305/PKR07/90305175/1058/PKR01

Mike Vandermause column: Be patient, as Ted Thompson is

The approval rating for Green Bay Packers General Manager Ted Thompson might have plummeted to an all-time low this week.

Dealing with the lingering effects of the Brett Favre trade last summer followed by the Packers’ disappointing 6-10 record was bad enough. But when Thompson failed to land any players in the early stages of free agency, his critics began braying like rented mules.

The rallying cry from a restless fan base went something like this: “Do something — anything — to upgrade the roster and appease us.”

To which Thompson, during an appearance at the University of Wisconsin pro day on Wednesday, calmly replied: “We don’t want to sign a guy just so we can say, ‘Look!’ or just to put another guy on the pile. We want a guy who can come in and fill a particular role. It doesn’t have to be a starter, doesn’t have to be all that. If a guy can do something to help our team and give us a better chance in the fall, that’s what we’ll do.”

Crack on him if you must, but at least give Thompson credit for standing up for his convictions. He refuses to engage in senseless overbidding for underwhelming talent even in the face of sharp criticism.

That’s why Thompson took a pass on free agent defensive lineman Chris Canty, who signed with the New York Giants for an exorbitant $42 million over six years despite never earning a Pro Bowl berth.

That’s why Thompson never bothered to enter the bidding for defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who was paid a king’s ransom — $41 million guaranteed and $100 million total over seven years — by the Washington Redskins.

Thompson will never let the urge for a quick fix get in the way of common sense, and that drives his critics nuts. They want instant gratification, which is in stark contrast to Thompson’s measured approach to building a team.

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder might be considered the anti-Thompson in NFL circles.

He grew up a staunch supporter of the Redskins, and when he bought the team a decade ago proceeded to act out like a fan. That is to say, he threw millions of dollars at the most attractive free agents in a quest to achieve immediate success.

In the eyes of many Redskins fans, no one is smarter or more popular than Snyder in the spring. But when the Redskins consistently flop in the fall, no one looks more foolish.

The Redskins have qualified for the playoffs just twice in the last nine seasons under Snyder and never have advanced past the divisional round.

But that didn’t stop the free-spending Snyder from doling out $171 million in contracts last week for Haynesworth, cornerback DeAngelo Hall and guard Derrick Dockery.

In stark contrast, the only unrestricted free agent Thompson signed in 2007 was cornerback Frank Walker, yet the Packers went 13-3 that year and advanced to the NFC championship game.

Thompson isn’t averse to throwing big money at free agents, as evidenced by his signing of Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett in 2006. But the player and the price must be right.

This is not an argument in favor of maintaining the status quo. The Packers took a big step backward last season, and management must be held accountable. Thompson clearly needs to upgrade the Packers’ defense, particularly the front seven, which played a key role in the team’s second-half slide.

But that doesn’t mean he should act out of desperation, which would only make matters worse.

Thompson has ammunition with four of the top 83 picks in next month’s draft, including the ninth overall. In addition, there is plenty of time to sign second-tier free agents or pull off a trade. Just because Thompson doesn’t keep up with the Snyders of the NFL world in March doesn’t mean the Packers are destined for failure in September.

Thompson can’t make football decisions based on fan sentiment. He learned that from former Packers General Manager Ron Wolf.

“You can’t really worry about it,” Wolf recently told me about public criticism. “Because you’re trying to do what in your mind … is in the best interests of the team.

“You could be wrong, but you have to live with yourself.”

Thompson should ultimately be judged on the Packers’ record this season, not how much money he spends on free agents.

After the abuse Thompson took this summer, I wonder how long he'll want to stay in Green Bay--even if the team starts winning again. I'd think if he looked to go elsewhere, he'd be in demand. I have this strange feeling that he'll leave here and build a championship caliber team elsewhere.

[texaspackerbacker]

Come on man..how about a comment? an original thought? You're starting a thread for petes sake

I like free agents.

I don't--in general, anyway.

[Deputy Nutz]

Well say Thompson leaves or gets fired a year after the Packers go 9-7. He signs on with the 49ers as their GM and Vice President. He hires his coaching staff, puts together his front office staff. He prepares for the draft, draft weekend comes and goes. He takes a weekend to rest and relax, and twenty minutes in he lies down and takes the advice of Packers fans everywhere and goes and fucks himself.

[Joemailman]

Great post Nutz...if you're at Sports Bubbler.

[Deputy Nutz]

Great post Nutz...if you're at Sports Bubbler.

They let you post pictures of cock there?

[SkinBasket]

Well say Thompson leaves or gets fired a year after the Packers go 9-7. He signs on with the 49ers as their GM and Vice President. He hires his coaching staff, puts together his front office staff. He prepares for the draft, draft weekend comes and goes. He takes a weekend to rest and relax, and twenty minutes in he lies down and takes the advice of Packers fans everywhere and goes and fucks himself.

Why are you so fucking angry? Are you drinking again?

[Deputy Nutz]

Yes, yes I am. I feel that I am a better writer while on the sauce, I also think I smell better as well

[red]

Yes, yes I am. I feel that I am a better writer while on the sauce, I also think I smell better as well

i look better when i drink

and i'm more charming

[Guiness]

Come on man..how about a comment? an original thought? You're starting a thread for petes sake

It was the B-Man

He's thinking about 8-ways.

Lesbian 8 ways. The devil is in the details.

The lady bring up the topic, and warms to it! Way to egg him on!

Going to visit the grailism thread to see if you spurned him into updating it

[Bretsky]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090305/PKR07/90305175/1058/PKR01

Mike Vandermause column: Be patient, as Ted Thompson is

The approval rating for Green Bay Packers General Manager Ted Thompson might have plummeted to an all-time low this week.

Dealing with the lingering effects of the Brett Favre trade last summer followed by the Packers’ disappointing 6-10 record was bad enough. But when Thompson failed to land any players in the early stages of free agency, his critics began braying like rented mules.

The rallying cry from a restless fan base went something like this: “Do something — anything — to upgrade the roster and appease us.”

To which Thompson, during an appearance at the University of Wisconsin pro day on Wednesday, calmly replied: “We don’t want to sign a guy just so we can say, ‘Look!’ or just to put another guy on the pile. We want a guy who can come in and fill a particular role. It doesn’t have to be a starter, doesn’t have to be all that. If a guy can do something to help our team and give us a better chance in the fall, that’s what we’ll do.”

Crack on him if you must, but at least give Thompson credit for standing up for his convictions. He refuses to engage in senseless overbidding for underwhelming talent even in the face of sharp criticism.

That’s why Thompson took a pass on free agent defensive lineman Chris Canty, who signed with the New York Giants for an exorbitant $42 million over six years despite never earning a Pro Bowl berth.

That’s why Thompson never bothered to enter the bidding for defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth, who was paid a king’s ransom — $41 million guaranteed and $100 million total over seven years — by the Washington Redskins.

Thompson will never let the urge for a quick fix get in the way of common sense, and that drives his critics nuts. They want instant gratification, which is in stark contrast to Thompson’s measured approach to building a team.

Redskins owner Daniel Snyder might be considered the anti-Thompson in NFL circles.

He grew up a staunch supporter of the Redskins, and when he bought the team a decade ago proceeded to act out like a fan. That is to say, he threw millions of dollars at the most attractive free agents in a quest to achieve immediate success.

In the eyes of many Redskins fans, no one is smarter or more popular than Snyder in the spring. But when the Redskins consistently flop in the fall, no one looks more foolish.

The Redskins have qualified for the playoffs just twice in the last nine seasons under Snyder and never have advanced past the divisional round.

But that didn’t stop the free-spending Snyder from doling out $171 million in contracts last week for Haynesworth, cornerback DeAngelo Hall and guard Derrick Dockery.

In stark contrast, the only unrestricted free agent Thompson signed in 2007 was cornerback Frank Walker, yet the Packers went 13-3 that year and advanced to the NFC championship game.

Thompson isn’t averse to throwing big money at free agents, as evidenced by his signing of Charles Woodson and Ryan Pickett in 2006. But the player and the price must be right.

This is not an argument in favor of maintaining the status quo. The Packers took a big step backward last season, and management must be held accountable. Thompson clearly needs to upgrade the Packers’ defense, particularly the front seven, which played a key role in the team’s second-half slide.

But that doesn’t mean he should act out of desperation, which would only make matters worse.

Thompson has ammunition with four of the top 83 picks in next month’s draft, including the ninth overall. In addition, there is plenty of time to sign second-tier free agents or pull off a trade. Just because Thompson doesn’t keep up with the Snyders of the NFL world in March doesn’t mean the Packers are destined for failure in September.

Thompson can’t make football decisions based on fan sentiment. He learned that from former Packers General Manager Ron Wolf.

“You can’t really worry about it,” Wolf recently told me about public criticism. “Because you’re trying to do what in your mind … is in the best interests of the team.

“You could be wrong, but you have to live with yourself.”

Thompson should ultimately be judged on the Packers’ record this season, not how much money he spends on free agents.

After the abuse Thompson took this summer, I wonder how long he'll want to stay in Green Bay--even if the team starts winning again. I'd think if he looked to go elsewhere, he'd be in demand. I have this strange feeling that he'll leave here and build a championship caliber team elsewhere.

Look at the bright side folks

Every year we're going to have the healthiest dam Salary Cap going into the season of just about the entire NFL

[Bretsky]

Come on man..how about a comment? an original thought? You're starting a thread for petes sake

It was the B-Man

He's thinking about 8-ways.

Lesbian 8 ways. The devil is in the details.

The lady bring up the topic, and warms to it! Way to egg him on!

Going to visit the grailism thread to see if you spurned him into updating it

Ziggy would love a lesby 8sum No Headaches for five years

[MJZiggy]

They can purr?! Never mind.

[Fritz]

Yes, I do believe so, Zig.