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  • #61
    Originally posted by mraynrand
    Originally posted by sheepshead
    Loosing 6 games by 5 points or less has NOTHING to do with the general manager. NOTHING. Our biggest need is on the defense. So he spent lots and lots of money on it. ON COACHES.

    Compare these two teams for instance over the last 10 years:

    Washington Redskins - 10 years = 1 playoff win


    Pittsburgh Steelers - 10 years = 11 playoff wins (two super bowls)

    Now, google all the Big Name Free Agents Snyder has signed.

    Try to do a similar search for the Steelers. I couldnt name one OL on that team. Oh but we all know the Jets OL dont we??

    I'm glad he is not signing 36 year olds to 5 year deals and putting them in the top 5 of all salaries on the team.
    Good post. Check out the Eagles as well. I think their forays into FA have been pretty modest. Even Ne, which has relied on some FAs, didn't exactly break the bank to get their guys in there...
    well thats just it. tt has averaged like 1 fa addition per year, even though we have had many needs over those years, some of which still haven't been fixed

    the first year he got klemm and o'dwire, because we needed guards. niether one broke the bank, but they were both decent atempts at getting something we needed. neither made it. but i give him credit for trying

    the next year i think it was pickett, nice pickup, but that was it, still many other needs

    then woodson, or was he the year before. either way, good pickup. and tt opened his purse to make a big addition. still other areas thaat needed help

    then chillar, nothing big, but a nice pickup. more additions like this would be great. we still need help in a lot of places

    canty and igor are not top shelf free agents, they are just solid role players that would have filled an area of need. a 6.5 million dollar average is not breaking the bank. in fact its BS, the actual deal is worth much less then that, probably 4.5 to 5 million a year

    i don't see anyone on here bitching that we didn't sign haynesworth. no one wants tt to just spend to spend

    but with tt's philosophy about drafting best player available, you aren't going to be drafting players all the time that you actually need, like the nelson pick last year. you're still going to be left with holes, if you continue to ignore needs because the players don''t rank high enough on your board

    and if that happens that you have to go to free agency to fill those needs

    our o-line is still a mess, this year we might have 4 or 5 guys starting at new positions. meaning we're starting over on the o-line

    and honestly the d-line is a giant question mark, with zero depth

    i would feel a lot more comfortable going into next year with some guys on the roster that have proven they can play in the nfl in the schemes we are going to be ruuning. even if they are 2nd or 3rd cllass free agents

    at least it would look like we are trying to improve, not just sitting back and hoping the dice we roll in the draft comes up 6's

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    • #62
      2005
      Klemm
      O'dwyer

      2006
      Manuel
      Pickett
      Woodson

      2007
      Frank Walker

      2008
      Chillar

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      • #63
        Originally posted by red
        our o-line is still a mess, this year we might have 4 or 5 guys starting at new positions. meaning we're starting over on the o-line

        and honestly the d-line is a giant question mark, with zero depth

        This is the one problem I have with TT.

        I completely agree with his philosophy of building primarily through the draft and supplementing with "value" free agents. I like that he picks BPA in the draft because needs are only perceived and you never know when a position of strength will become one of weakness and vice versa. You might as well boost your odds of hitting by taking the best player and not create more need positions because you neglected them.

        That said, I think more emphasis has to be placed on the OL and DL. These positions are of such high importance that it really doesn't matter how much talent you have at other positions. If you're weak on the line, you're going to struggle. In turn, sometimes you can be a little weak at other positions but if your line is strong you can compensate and/or hide your weakness easier. So, maybe these are spots where he needs to make exceptions. Maybe he needs to pay a little more. I still dont' think Canty was worth 8 mill a year but Igor may have been worth 5. Maybe instead of taking a S or WR cause they are the best on the board, if there is a lineman that's close we need to reach a little to make sure those positions are solid.

        So, I'm not completely sold on TT but I do like the way he operates. I like how he never shows his cards. I like how he always does his homework and doesn't just jump at the flavor of the month. But, if he doesn't get the lines fixed, we won't win many games and he won't be around too long. I hope he gets it done because I think we could do a hell of a lot worse.
        Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          2005
          Klemm
          O'dwyer

          2006
          Manuel
          Pickett
          Woodson

          2007
          Frank Walker

          2008
          Chillar
          can anyone blame me for completely forgetting about manuel and walker? lol

          and fred

          canty didn't get 8 million a year, it's 6.5 a year

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          • #65
            Originally posted by red
            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
            2005
            Klemm
            O'dwyer

            2006
            Manuel
            Pickett
            Woodson

            2007
            Frank Walker

            2008
            Chillar
            can anyone blame me for completely forgetting about manuel and walker? lol

            and fred

            canty didn't get 8 million a year, it's 6.5 a year
            Maybe I was a little high. But 6.5 from the Giants means we'd have had to pay over 7 to get him to come here. Its still too much IMO.
            Fred's Slacks is a Winner!

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Partial
              Originally posted by sheepshead
              Collins will be an all-pro when collins is an all-pro. Its not your call.
              Ok, well, in that case, Nick Collins is not an All-Pro, since he hasn't ever been named to an all-pro roster. Stings, doesn't it?
              Huh? 2008 All-Pro Roster

              Stings, doesn't it?
              </delurk>

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                2005
                Klemm
                O'dwyer

                2006
                Manuel
                Pickett
                Woodson

                2007
                Frank Walker

                2008
                Chillar
                Not sure about the years, but there were some other "Street FA's"

                Arturo Freeman S 2005
                Earl Little S 2005
                Ben Taylor LB extraordinaire 2006
                Raynoch Thompson see above 2005

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by KYPack
                  Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                  2005
                  Klemm
                  O'dwyer

                  2006
                  Manuel
                  Pickett
                  Woodson

                  2007
                  Frank Walker

                  2008
                  Chillar
                  Not sure about the years, but there were some other "Street FA's"

                  Arturo Freeman S 2005
                  Earl Little S 2005
                  Ben Taylor LB extraordinaire 2006
                  Raynoch Thompson see above 2005
                  Snake feels the new FA safety signing will end up like those LEGENDARY former Packer greats as well. But we'll see.
                  Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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