The OFFENSIVE Offensive Line

[beveaux1]

In three years, when Williams is making 60 mil a year, that line wont be so good anymore....

Unfortunately, in three years, there's a chance we won't be able to capitalize on that.

[Patler]

GB kept the wrong center twice???

Of 32 centers graded after week 1:

Sean Rhyan is #22 (#30 pass, #13 run)
Elgton Jenkins is #11 (#2 pass, #19 run)
Josh Meyers is # 8 (#21 pass, #8 run)

[Joemailman]

GB kept the wrong center twice???

Of 32 centers graded after week 1:

Sean Rhyan is #22 (#30 pass, #13 run)
Elgton Jenkins is #11 (#2 pass, #19 run)
Josh Meyers is # 8 (#21 pass, #8 run)

Perhaps it says more about the Packers coaching staff than it does about which players were kept.

[Sparkey]

BUT KISS has to go!

[pbmax]

Intrusive thought #1: Jennings started because Burton is worse.

[bobblehead]

Intrusive thought #1: Jennings started because Burton is worse.

Thought 2: MiLF leans on Stenovich too much, or is an idiot himself. This rotation of guys and ultimately going with the guy they like more instead of the more effective player has to stop.

[Patler]

There has been a definite reversal in performance of the OL since Butkus was promoted. Under Stenovich, the line performed well, young players developed and injuries were dealt with. I haven't seen that with Butkus in charge. The whole group feels stagnant.

One of my concerns about LaFleur is he hasn't seen the need to replace Butkus.

[Joemailman]

When the Packers hired Butkus in 2019, they were the 4th NFL team to hire Butkus as an assistant offensive line coach. They are the only one to see fit to promote him to the top offensive line job. That was in 2022.

[pbmax]

When the Packers hired Butkus in 2019, they were the 4th NFL team to hire Butkus as an assistant offensive line coach. They are the only one to see fit to promote him to the top offensive line job. That was in 2022.

Then perhaps its a good thing they have that vet guy there now.

[Fritz]

It sure seems like the offensive line play has regressed under Butkus. And he's been around for awhile, so yes, it's concerning that LeFleur has not seen reason to fire his offensive line coach.

[Bretsky]

Intrusive thought #1: Jennings started because Burton is worse.

IF week one perfomanced continue you could agree with what I noted last year

Sheed Wallace started at LT last year because he was way better than Shitbag's 1st round draft pick

[pbmax]

IF week one perfomanced continue you could agree with what I noted last year

Sheed Wallace started at LT last year because he was way better than Shitbag's 1st round draft pick

Can't agree with that one. Morgan looked quite good in camp last year. He got moved because the interior (Banks and Elgton) were banged up and they wanted Guard depth. Morgan was the minimum fourth best lineman, had played guard and would allow Rhyan to move to center if Elgton couldn't go.

Wallace was mid and all get out. A great backup but a replaceable starter.

[bobblehead]

Hope: Sign Kevin Zeitler. Josh Jacobs (or possibly Kaleb Johnson) returns eventually and takes some pressure off the pass game.

Prayer: Banks could return. Burton could be given a start. The young players will develop at their positions (saw Morgan flat get beat wide which was embarrassing).

Portents: Everyone can miss in FA, its why Ted largely avoided it; expensive mistakes. But man they needed to hit on Banks and it has not really paid off yet.

Dangers: Stay the course. Something isn't working to improve this line's performance. I'm not sure you can continue to hope the same approach works. Hopefully the new coach can help identify a couple of the issues. They need urgency not panic (I am become death itself, a destroyer of worlds, a columnist on deadline).

Largely I think the young players need time. Burton might need to play center though I haven't combed through tape to see if Rhyan struggled. I would say someone needs to get the line calls correct but if you leave a free edge rusher in a protection call, you can't also have a free rusher from the other side.

They need to get something to tick upwards soon. Vikings were the worst kind of option to face early. But its out in the open now.

I think that Morgan play was confusion of assignment not physical. Which is more on coaching. Fire Stenovich. I'm going to say it until I manifest it.

[pbmax]

I think that Morgan play was confusion of assignment not physical. Which is more on coaching. Fire Stenovich. I'm going to say it until I manifest it.

Turner was giving them fits with speed and he speed rushed Morgan once successfully that I saw.