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  • #31
    Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    ZBB will be out for most of the season. Waste of money.
    Joe Johnson says "Hi"

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    • #32
      Originally posted by RandsRevenge View Post

      Joe Johnson says "Hi"
      I would say the ZBB situation is more like Bakh. Joe Johnson was more like Aaron Banks.
      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
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      • #33
        ZBB is likely done as a Packer, he is cap neutral next year so I suspect they will cut him lose. Did he come back too soon? Not heal right? How do you tear the same tendon twice back to back? Feel awful for the guy. He is such a good player when healthy.

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        • #34
          Bakhtiari, Banks, Bako-Bewele. No more big contracts to OL whose last names start with Ba.
          I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Bakhtiari, Banks, Bako-Bewele. No more big contracts to OL whose last names start with Ba.
            Just goes to show the trouble started as soon as Zach changed his name.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
              ZBB is likely done as a Packer, he is cap neutral next year so I suspect they will cut him lose. Did he come back too soon? Not heal right? How do you tear the same tendon twice back to back? Feel awful for the guy. He is such a good player when healthy.
              If he is only cap neutral, then the Packers will give him every opportunity to see if he can get back to form. If he heals well, he should be ready by camp. It's not like the Packers have a surplus of quality offensive linemen.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Bakhtiari, Banks, Bako-Bewele. No more big contracts to OL whose last names start with Ba.
                Packers should seek to void ZBB's contract for fraud. When it was announced, he was still Zach Tom. Had they known........

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  Bakhtiari, Banks, Bako-Bewele. No more big contracts to OL whose last names start with Ba.
                  Great idea. Then extend the same ban to the rest of the alphabet.
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                  • #39
                    Packers offense is last in the NFL in 3rd down conversions (4/21), tied for last in 4th down conversions (0/3), and 27th in red zone pct (3/8). Packers are 26th in yards gained for drive (25.8).
                    I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #40




                      Patellar tendon tears are one of the most serious knee injuries in the NFL. While far less common than ACL or Achilles ruptures, they can be career-altering, especially for players whose performance depends on power, leverage, and knee extension.

                      This article explains what a patellar tendon tear is, how it happens, recovery timelines, and notable NFL cases this season—with a focus on medical reality, not just return-to-play dates.
                      What Is the Patellar Tendon?


                      The patellar tendon connects the kneecap (patella) to the shin bone (tibia) and is a key part of the knee extensor mechanism. It allows players to:
                      • Straighten the knee
                      • Explode off the line
                      • Absorb force when landing or cutting

                      A complete tear disrupts this mechanism entirely, making normal movement impossible.
                      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • #41
                        Thanks for the information, Joe. Sounds like that injury will need longer than a year to fully recover from and there’s a high risk that he’ll never be the player he used to be.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post

                          I would say the ZBB situation is more like Bakh. Joe Johnson was more like Aaron Banks.
                          I don't think the ZBB situation is actually that much like Bakhtieri's situation, simply because Bakh was 29 years old when he received his extension, and ZBB was 26.

                          This is just plain bad luck. Period. Not a mistake to extend ZBB, unless you somehow had a crystal ball and knew he'd get hurt like he did. Which nobody has.
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                          • #43
                            Fritz mentioned this elsewhere but according to the Mosqueda read at Acme Packing, the Packers offense was its usual game plan self versus the Vikings when the floodgates opened on pass rush pressure. Long QB drops off the non-functioning run game were getting big plays but was not easy to sustain as they weren't getting any yardage on runs so drives stalled.

                            When they changed things up in the second half the Vikes dropped out of blitzes (their blitz looks stayed high in the second half but the number of 5 or more pass rushers dropped) they sank more players into coverage. By the time the Packers adjusted to that, the offense and Love were coming unglued.

                            The Jets game was much more short passing game from the get go. This hurts the offenses ability to disguise intentions with its zone runs and boots but was obviously needed for self preservation.

                            I think its obvious now with a new O Line guy in the building that the Packers knew they needed a remake there. Teasing out whether it was Gute's draft picks or failure to develop under Butkus, takes a level of sophistication and knowledge I am not sure we posses here. Most of what we have is inference.

                            But my gut says go with the youth and make them better.
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                            • #44
                              2026-09-22_21_34_15-greenshot.png My favorite new D formation

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Fritz View Post

                                I don't think the ZBB situation is actually that much like Bakhtieri's situation, simply because Bakh was 29 years old when he received his extension, and ZBB was 26.

                                This is just plain bad luck. Period. Not a mistake to extend ZBB, unless you somehow had a crystal ball and knew he'd get hurt like he did. Which nobody has.
                                I don't fault them for Bakhtiari's contract. He had a solid career injury-wise to that point. He missed a few games because of illness and minor injuries, but had no significant injuries and was an All-Pro left tackle still playing at an All-Pro level. No reason to not think he could go another 3 or 4 years. Tearing an ACL in a late season practice and having the repair go so very, very badly was bad luck

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