Official Packers Destroy Bears More F****** Banjo Thread

[pbmax]

Last note tonight, anyone notice a LOT of play action?

[call_me_ishmael]

The beat a backup QB - let's temper expectations a bit.

[bobblehead]

Bobble, did the line move this week? CBS has Packers covering +1.5 but all week I saw Packers +2.5 on Yahoo.

My Stations casino app opened at Pack +2 and closed at +1.5. Just woke up. Huge headache. Going to walk the dogs

[Joemailman]

The beat a backup QB - let's temper expectations a bit.

The biggest thing was they didn't beat themselves. Only 25 penalty yards, no dropped passes that I remember, no turnovers. Not perfect, but undoubtedly their best game so far.

[Joemailman]

PFF Scores:

Top 5 offense

• QB Jordan Love: 95.1
• WR Matthew Golden: 90.0
• WR Christian Watson: 81.3
• TE Tucker Kraft: 78.4
• RT Anthony Belton: 68.2

Love was elite in every single of the word. He dominated from clean pockets, was excellent under pressure, consistently hit big plays down the field and off play-action and finished with six "big time throws." Golden caught six of seven targets for 123 yards, gained 32 yards after the catch, averaged 4.56 yards per route run and made two contested catches, and he caught the two-point conversion. Watson caught six of seven targets for 143 yards and two touchdowns, averaged 4.77 yards per route run and caught all three of his contested targets, including a 53-yard touchdown. Kraft caught all five of his passes, gained 38 yards after the catch, created three first downs and was good as a run blocker. Belton allowed zero pressures over 34 pass-blocking snaps and was good enough as a run blocker.

Top 5 defense

• S Xavier McKinney: 90.1
• EDGE Brenton Cox Jr.: 85.8
• EDGE Lukas Van Ness: 79.5
• S Evan Williams: 78.8
• LB Ty'Ron Hopper: 75.9

McKinney intercepted two passes and had a tackle. He made it hurt every time the Bears challenged him down the field. Cox produced a team-high six pressures, including a hit, and he had three stops against the run. Van Ness had three pressures, including a hit. Williams made 10 tackles without a miss, and the five targets into his coverage gained only 23 yards. He was strong against the run (74.3 grade). Hopper had an interception and allowed only one catch into his coverage, earning a 82.3 coverage grade.

Bottom 5 offense

• RG Travis Glover: 36.1
• LT Jordan Morgan: 47.1
• WR Bo Melton: 48.1
• TE Jonnu Smith: 49.1
• TE Josh Whyle: 49.1

Glover gave up two pressures, including a quarterback hit, and earned a poor run blocking grade (43.0). He was the offensive line's worst pass blocker. Morgan was credited with allowing two sacks and a team-high three pressures, and he had another false start penalty. He was the offensive line's worst run blocker. Melton dropped a pass, and he turned 17 routes run into only 20 receiving yards. Smith didn't have a catch over 11 routes run and graded poorly as a blocker. Whyle gave up a pressure as a pass-blocker.

Bottom 5 defense

• LB Zaire Franklin: 46.6
• DL Chris McClellan: 48.0
• DL Devonte Wyatt: 50.8
• EDGE Barryn Sorrell: 57.3
• DL Jonathan Ford: 61.0

Franklin missed two tackles and had a drive-extending penalty, but he also produced a team-high five stops and broke up a pass. McClellan produced two pressures, including a hit, but he needed 24 pass-rushing snaps, and his production against the run was minimal. Wyatt had two sacks, but he also missed two tackles and earned a poor run defense grade (32.1). Sorrell had two pressures over 14 pass-rushing snaps. Ford played 17 snaps, but his 11 pass-rushing chances netted only one pressure.

Special teams


J. Michael Sturdivant (79.4 grade, two tackles) and Kamal Hadden (77.3 grade, three total tackles) led the way for the special teams. Nick Niemann also had two tackles. The Packers didn't have a special teams penalty but did miss five total tackle attempts while covering kicks and punts. Kicker Trey Smack missed an extra point and two field goals under 50 yards, all in the second half. Punter Daniel Whelan had two punts inside the 20 and a net average of 48.0, and his hang time on punts was 4.51 seconds.


Quarterback play

• Jordan Love: 95.1

Love played his best game of the 2026 season and one of the best games of his NFL career, finishing with an elite overall grade befitting the performance. When not pressured, Love completed 20 of 25 passes for 251 yards and a touchdown. He was under pressure on just nine dropbacks, and he completed five of six passes for 116 yards and another touchdown under pressure. Love hit six of eight throws over 20 yards in the air for an incredible 258 yards and both touchdowns, earning a 99.9 deep passing grade. Off play-action concepts, Love connected on 10 of 11 passes for 210 yards and a score. Overall, Love had an adjusted completion percentage of 90.0, six "big time throws" and only one "turnover worthy play."

Stat to know


Two stats stick out: Across 20 run defense snaps, the Packers produced "stops," or tackles creating a failure for the offense, on 13 of the 20. And Jordan Love completed six of his eight passes thrown 20 or more yards down the field, accounting for all six of his "big time throws." The Packers contained the run game of the Bears and then attacked relentlessly down the field in the passing game.

[pbmax]

Cheap bastards Episode 2(?) via Rob Demovsky on ESPN:

Though the game was relatively clean, it got chippy when, after a punt return that took Golden out of bounds in front of the Bears bench, Bears kicker Cairo Santos stuck out his leg as Golden was trying to get back to the field.

Packers linebacker Zaire Franklin let his play do the talking during Sunday's game -- then sounded off on the Bears after it. Kevin Sabitus/Getty Images
When asked whether Santos tried to trip him, Golden said: "Yeah, he did. He did. But it's all good. It's all good. I ain't got nothing to say to it."

Source: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/50162146/packers-maul-bears-fire-back-burden-quit-talk

[run pMc]

Santos definitely tried to trip Golden. I wonder if the league will fine him. Golden absolutely trucked that coach on the sideline, but dude did not appear to make any attempt to get out of the way either.

re: PFF grades, I think they are using an AI with weird blind spots? They have their own special grading system (yards/ route run, etc.) and definitely reward big plays either way. Surprised DDS didn't make it in their list with a sack and FR. Morgan wasn't great but I'm not convinced BOTH sacks were his fault. LOL that Belton "was good enough as a run blocker".

[Fritz]

Well, I sure didn't see this one coming. Tex was right, etc., etc.

HOWEVER, I maintain that the loss of Cooper was a severe blow to this team, and I'm not getting my hopes up. As Joe and others have said, the main things were, one, they stopped beating themselves with drops and penalties, and two, the (pass) blocking was good enough.

But you can't have long bomb after long bomb be your offensive game plan. While it was encouraging to see the offensive line open holes for running backs about four times that game, it was, well, about four times total. A no-running game, just long bombs game plan is not going to be sustainable.

But Love was wonderful. Watson was great. Golden was quite good also. Kraft seemed to be getting back to being Kraft.

I dunno, man. Not feeling like it's suddenly going to be a great year or anything, but at least they didn't blow the lead this time.

[Joemailman]

Santos definitely tried to trip Golden. I wonder if the league will fine him. Golden absolutely trucked that coach on the sideline, but dude did not appear to make any attempt to get out of the way either.

re: PFF grades, I think they are using an AI with weird blind spots? They have their own special grading system (yards/ route run, etc.) and definitely reward big plays either way. Surprised DDS didn't make it in their list with a sack and FR. Morgan wasn't great but I'm not convinced BOTH sacks were his fault. LOL that Belton "was good enough as a run blocker".

The first sack was on Morgan. The second one seemed more due to inside pressure. I suspect DDS had a pretty high score, just not in top 5.

[bobblehead]

The biggest thing was they didn't beat themselves. Only 25 penalty yards, no dropped passes that I remember, no turnovers. Not perfect, but undoubtedly their best game so far.

Actually the Bears only score came after a really sketch defensive holding call. If I recall they would have had to take a FG as it would have been 4th and long.

[bobblehead]

Santos definitely tried to trip Golden. I wonder if the league will fine him. Golden absolutely trucked that coach on the sideline, but dude did not appear to make any attempt to get out of the way either.

re: PFF grades, I think they are using an AI with weird blind spots? They have their own special grading system (yards/ route run, etc.) and definitely reward big plays either way. Surprised DDS didn't make it in their list with a sack and FR. Morgan wasn't great but I'm not convinced BOTH sacks were his fault. LOL that Belton "was good enough as a run blocker".

Morgan had back to back awful snaps that I think both ended as sacks. In the gameday thread I pointed out that his "help" actually hindered him as he had Booker (I think it was) locked down and his help chipped Booker around the edge and ruined Morgan's engagement. That said he is having lapses. He looks good on most snaps but then just looks bad for a handful. He needs consistency. I wonder if he would have it if he hadn't been forced to play guard for most of his career before this spring. Regardless, he is back at his natural position and has to be better.

[bobblehead]

Well, I sure didn't see this one coming. Tex was right, etc., etc.

HOWEVER, I maintain that the loss of Cooper was a severe blow to this team, and I'm not getting my hopes up. As Joe and others have said, the main things were, one, they stopped beating themselves with drops and penalties, and two, the (pass) blocking was good enough.

But you can't have long bomb after long bomb be your offensive game plan. While it was encouraging to see the offensive line open holes for running backs about four times that game, it was, well, about four times total. A no-running game, just long bombs game plan is not going to be sustainable.

But Love was wonderful. Watson was great. Golden was quite good also. Kraft seemed to be getting back to being Kraft.

I dunno, man. Not feeling like it's suddenly going to be a great year or anything, but at least they didn't blow the lead this time.

If the defense is flooding the box and then taking away the quick hits because its all you have shown capable of so far this year it had to be the offense. To MiLFs credit he saw it and opened it up in the second half. The Bears refused to change the way they were playing and he stuck to it punishing them over and over.

[bobblehead]

Just want to get one last thing in today while I'm still sober. Gutes needs to be flogged. Bringing in all these Guards after the fire is criminal. He left the position a tire fire and did nothing until we were all calling for MiLFs head. He let us look completely inept and lose games that could come back to haunt us in the playoff hunt. MiLF proved he is a good coach even though we still are missing one functional guard. Zeitler needs to play ASAP. Tomlinson has been a gift. I won't blame him for the injury to ZBB, we almost had to count on him bouncing back. But to be 3-2 with the shit show Gutes handed him.....Gutes should forfeit a bunch of his salary to MiLF. My only critique left of MiLF is that he didn't twist the knife after he stuck it in Ben Johnson.

[Fritz]

Bobble, I agree that it was a good offensive game plan against the Bears and what they were doing and the talent they had or did not have.My point is that having that anemic of a run game is not going to work going forward. I would agree to an extent that the offensive line clown show is laregely Guter's fault. He had two guys out on the street he could've signed at any time but waited until the guards they were using were clearly a tire fire. However, it's not clear whether The Flower was begging Guter to bring in someone else, or whether The Flower thought they'd be okay. In addition, it was not Guter's decision to start Donovan Jennings and Jacob Monk over Travis Glover, who has been an upgrade. Not saying he's great, but he's been better, and the coaches didn't seem to know that. I also think it's ridiculous to fault Guter for extending ZBB, if you were to claim that. The guy was young and clearly a very good right tackle, and nobody could know he'd injure and then re-injure himself. On top of that, you yourself said Morgan would likely be a better tackle right now if he hadn't been played out of position.

So yes, Guter shoulders some of the blame for the horror show. For sure. I'm not disagreeing. But I think the coaching staff also deserves blame for trotting out the product they were.

And I'm having a hard time getting past Edgerrin Cooper's injury. Man, the guy was flying around, playing at a very high level. That defense, with Cooper, Williams, Van Mess, The Dentist, Cisse, and Parsons coming back - that would've been something to see. That defense could keep a mediocre offense afloat for a while, though ultimately it's a leauge hell bent on offense.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well, I sure didn't see this one coming. Tex was right, etc., etc.

HOWEVER, I maintain that the loss of Cooper was a severe blow to this team, and I'm not getting my hopes up. As Joe and others have said, the main things were, one, they stopped beating themselves with drops and penalties, and two, the (pass) blocking was good enough.

But you can't have long bomb after long bomb be your offensive game plan. While it was encouraging to see the offensive line open holes for running backs about four times that game, it was, well, about four times total. A no-running game, just long bombs game plan is not going to be sustainable.

But Love was wonderful. Watson was great. Golden was quite good also. Kraft seemed to be getting back to being Kraft.

I dunno, man. Not feeling like it's suddenly going to be a great year or anything, but at least they didn't blow the lead this time.

It seems like I'm the only one using the "like" function on posts, and I generally liked yours.

The only thing I sorta disagree with is that you indeed can have long bomb after long bomb as the game plan, or at least as the adjustment. Do it until they adjust to your adjustment, as LaFleur did. Clearly the Bear defense was shutting down short and medium range pass plays in addition to stifling our run game. When you have speed like Watson and Golden and maybe Sturtevant too, and they think they can get away without double covering our deep threats, then prove them wrong. I applaud LaFleur for that about as much as I criticize him for having his default being damn run first and those shitty sideways passes.

Regarding the O Line and some of what bobblehead said, I say again, mediocre like we had for decades is plenty good enough for success. It's just when they drop below mediocre that there is a problem. Morgan stunk that way, and I would be surprised if he rises even to consistent mediocrity. I do not condemn Gutekunst for bringing in several road graders. Tomlinson has been pretty good. Zeitler and Beckton, who knows, but they seem to have the ability to help.

Regarding PFF, which I have consistently dissed, the above stuff seemed surprisingly in sync with what observation says. As for Dennis-Sutton, I hope to see more of him. Maybe he was downgraded because his best plays were pretty much in garbage time. Also, I think he has some learning to do, as even with all that ability, he sometimes seems to be out of position.