Official Packers vs Cowboys Discussion Thread

[Joemailman]

Scores of last 6 Packer/Cowboy games:

September 28, 2025	Green Bay Packers	40	Dallas Cowboys	40	Tied in Overtime
January 14, 2024	Green Bay Packers	48	Dallas Cowboys	32	NFC Wild Card
November 13, 2022	Dallas Cowboys	28	Green Bay Packers	31	Packers Won in Overtime
October 6, 2019	Green Bay Packers	34	Dallas Cowboys	24	Regular Season
October 8, 2017	Green Bay Packers	35	Dallas Cowboys	31	Regular Season
January 15, 2017	Green Bay Packers	34	Dallas Cowboys	31	NFC Divisional

[bobblehead]

I'm a little irked by Gutes...whats new right? Sky Moore is out and we have a roster spot with Hargrave being done. Why have we not went out and signed a return specialist to a short term deal? There are guys out there who would love a chance to audition for the league. Honestly deciding we can get by with Golden or whoever seems like an unforced error that could cost as at a minimum field position or at worst a possession. Does this guy never learn?

[pbmax]

I'm a little irked by Gutes...whats new right? Sky Moore is out and we have a roster spot with Hargrave being done. Why have we not went out and signed a return specialist to a short term deal? There are guys out there who would love a chance to audition for the league. Honestly deciding we can get by with Golden or whoever seems like an unforced error that could cost as at a minimum field position or at worst a possession. Does this guy never learn?

Savion seems likely to be the guy up next. Not a returner but maybe slot?

[Joemailman]

Savion seems likely to be the guy up next. Not a returner but maybe slot?

Savion did return 28 kickoffs last year. But not punts. I'm kind of okay with Golden returning punts for a couple games until Moore is back.

[pbmax]

Silverstein on Twitter:

Packers activated WR Savion Williams off injured reserve/designated for return, placed DT Jonathan Ford, DT Javon Hargrave and WR Skyy Moore on injured reserve, and elevated edge Arron Mosby and WR Coleman Owen from the practice squad to the active roster for gameday.

[Joemailman]

Looks like the Packers will be signing someone at DT next week.

[Bretsky]

I'm a little irked by Gutes...whats new right? Sky Moore is out and we have a roster spot with Hargrave being done. Why have we not went out and signed a return specialist to a short term deal? There are guys out there who would love a chance to audition for the league. Honestly deciding we can get by with Golden or whoever seems like an unforced error that could cost as at a minimum field position or at worst a possession. Does this guy never learn?

Back when we had a quality GM they would attack these issues. Roell Preston, Allen Rossum ? Returners out there. I'm idiotic to put Golden back there. With Reed gone, he absolutely needs to stay healthy.

[Teamcheez1]

This just feels like one of those games we do just enough to lose. I hope I’m wrong.

[pbmax]

Back when we had a quality GM they would attack these issues. Roell Preston, Allen Rossum ? Returners out there. I'm idiotic to put Golden back there. With Reed gone, he absolutely needs to stay healthy.

Yeah but that guy left because he didn't want to deal with the salary cap anymore. So its possible things have changed.

The question I'd like answered is would you be better off with 3-4 ST demons or 3-4 developmental guys? A lot depends on who the last guys to make the squad are. Do you get Sam Shield if you are keeping Welch, St. Juste, Jarret Bush and Desmond Howard?

This year might test that theory. Kristian Welch will be active and possibly in line to get ILB snaps.

Its also likely different because there is a 17 man taxi-squad.

[Joemailman]

Back when we had a quality GM they would attack these issues. Roell Preston, Allen Rossum ? Returners out there. I'm idiotic to put Golden back there. With Reed gone, he absolutely needs to stay healthy.

Well, neither one of those guys were acquired in the middle of the season. And that was about a quarter century ago. So it seems acquiring a quality returner in the middle of the season isn't that easy. Like Ron Wolf, Gute. addressed the issue in the offseason. Sometimes in football, injuries interrupt your plans. Besides, is returning punts that dangerous? Less dangerous than catching a pass between 2 defenders, I would think.

[pbmax]

WR Coleman Owen was elevated and he is a college trained slot who has also returned punts. Could see him in there replacing Golden.

[bobblehead]

Savion did return 28 kickoffs last year. But not punts. I'm kind of okay with Golden returning punts for a couple games until Moore is back.

He was awful when he took over last game. We got away with it. Not sure how long we will get away with it.

[bobblehead]

Yeah but that guy left because he didn't want to deal with the salary cap anymore. So its possible things have changed.

The question I'd like answered is would you be better off with 3-4 ST demons or 3-4 developmental guys? A lot depends on who the last guys to make the squad are. Do you get Sam Shield if you are keeping Welch, St. Juste, Jarret Bush and Desmond Howard?

This year might test that theory. Kristian Welch will be active and possibly in line to get ILB snaps.

Its also likely different because there is a 17 man taxi-squad.

In a salary cap era, where coach access to players in the offseason is limited and players are expected to develop themselves, I think you know where I stand on this. Developing a guy just in time to pay him isn't the model anymore. If you don't develop Sam Shield you sign him instead. If coaches can really work with kids maybe you can develop a guy in 2 seasons and get 2 more cheap, but that simply isn't the way things work anymore.

[bobblehead]

Well, neither one of those guys were acquired in the middle of the season. And that was about a quarter century ago. So it seems acquiring a quality returner in the middle of the season isn't that easy. Like Ron Wolf, Gute. addressed the issue in the offseason. Sometimes in football, injuries interrupt your plans. Besides, is returning punts that dangerous? Less dangerous than catching a pass between 2 defenders, I would think.

There are several college return guys on practice squads or even bagging groceries that aren't viable WRs at this level that could be signed temporarily.

[Joemailman]

There are several college return guys on practice squads or even bagging groceries that aren't viable WRs at this level that could be signed temporarily.

WR Coleman Owen was elevated and he is a college trained slot who has also returned punts. Could see him in there replacing Golden.