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  • #1

    Trade Down Scenarios

    Okay, I'm procrastinating...so since it's rainy and quiet and I'm avoiding work, how about some first-round trade down scenarios? Please no "let's trade our #9 plus Charlie Peprah to San Francisco for their #10 and their second and third round picks" stuff.

    Here's a link to a draft value chart: http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

    So...what if the Lions draft an offensive lineman #1 overall, then see that Stafford is still there at #9...so they trade their #20 and #33 for the Pack's #9 plus like Green Bay's fourth round choice?

    That'd be about equivalent on the chart...and the Packers get two good picks, the Lions get Stafford - their franchise QB supposedly - and a fourth but still have their own two thirds (one of theirs plus Dallas's in the Roy Williams heist), so they'd still have quantity....

    What other plausible scenarios are out there?
    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

    KYPack
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  • #2
    Get out of the first round. Take anything reasonable.
    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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    • #3
      I don't know, dude. It seems to my amateur eye that there are a lot of good plyers like Darren Gilbert (that San Diego State defensive end guy) and Clay Mthews who might be around in that mid-to-end first round. I'm liking the whole mid-first to mid-second area.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #4
        What the league needs to do now that they have to get a new CBA is reduce the crazy money that these top pick rookies are getting, It only serves the player and it is a slap in the face to a lot of veterans, good pro bowl type veterans that won't ever see that kind of loot.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          What the league needs to do now that they have to get a new CBA is reduce the crazy money that these top pick rookies are getting, It only serves the player and it is a slap in the face to a lot of veterans, good pro bowl type veterans that won't ever see that kind of loot.
          Are you suggesting that Alex Smith didn't earn the $26M more or less that the 49ers paid him??

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          • #6
            This is the one rare case I want to trade up. I've said all along that quality LT's are pretty hard to find and if we can get one of the top prospects this might be our best chance.

            Clifton is on his last legs and we have no idea if the successor is on the roster. For the first time in YEARS we have a young talented roster that doesn't require a lot of added picks. I would trade away some picks and try and move up 3/4 spots.

            As far as moving down...yea, if you do it you have to move out of the big money range.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #7
              ...And now the $64,000 question: which left tackle?
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Fritz
                ...And now the $64,000 question: which left tackle?
                I'll let the experts determine that one as I dont' have game film or really follow college that closely.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  ...And now the $64,000 question: which left tackle?
                  That's the question. Are any of the tackles this year of Joe Thomas or Jake Long quality/ability? Guys you can almost expect to start and play well from the day you draft them?

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                  • #10
                    It seems there are 3 or 4 LT's that are considered special guys, like Joe Thomas was a few years back. St lou & Cincy will probably grab one of 'em. I think we will take the other guy, maybe Smith from Alabama, who did a lot of stupid stuff prior to the draft. Most rookies are dumb 22 year olds, he's just another one. Draft him and grow him up.

                    We don't get a lot of top 10's, let's cash this one in.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KYPack
                      It seems there are 3 or 4 LT's that are considered special guys, like Joe Thomas was a few years back. St lou & Cincy will probably grab one of 'em. I think we will take the other guy, maybe Smith from Alabama, who did a lot of stupid stuff prior to the draft. Most rookies are dumb 22 year olds, he's just another one. Draft him and grow him up.

                      We don't get a lot of top 10's, let's cash this one in.
                      Didn't most people consider Smith to be the best of the bunch, until he "lost focus"?

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                      • #12
                        MY BREAKDOWN :::

                        I doubt Detroit would trade with the Packers and or vise versa...

                        The thing is... Stafford could fall very fast...

                        #1 Detroit - Could go here
                        #2 Rams - Could take stafford but will role with a OT since Pace left.
                        #3 Chiefs - Just got Cassel No way...
                        #4 Seahawks - Hasselback ... No way...
                        #5 Browns - Quinn and Anderson ... No way...
                        #6 Bengals - To much money in Palmer ... No way
                        #7 Oakland - J Russell ... No way
                        #8 Jaguars - Just gave David Garrad a big deal... No way...

                        Now... #9... Where were stand...

                        at #10 SF could take Stafford and probably would if he did fall, but maybe someone would want to jump in front of them?

                        Count the Lions,Vikings,Bears out of trade partners....

                        You have left...

                        #13 - Skins (Cambell hasn't shown enough)
                        #15 - Texans (unlikely, Schaubb bought himself another year)
                        #17 - Jets (VERY POSSIBLE)
                        #19 - Tampa (Also need a young QB, VERY POSSIBLE)

                        Now the best scenario that could happen would be...

                        GB sends #9 pick to Tampa Bay...
                        Tampa sends #19 pick and #50 to GB, but since they don't have a 2nd round pick I don't see anything happening with them...

                        The second best thing would be...

                        GB sends #9 to Jets
                        Jets send #17 and #53 to GB...


                        This would favor GB a little, but it would assure the Jets a chance at a franchise QB since Joe Namath...

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                        • #13
                          Who doesn't have a second rounder? Tampa?

                          Imagine your Jets scenario - the Packers would have all of the Jet's first three picks.

                          I could live with that. A first, two seconds, two thirds.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            Who doesn't have a second rounder? Tampa?
                            Correct... I believe they gave it to Cleveland (part of the Winslow trade)

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                            • #15
                              you're dreaming, Thompson would never trade down.

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