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Re: For TT Lovers...
I'm only going to respond to all of this, cause #1, I'm kind of bored, and #2, I like being a dick from time to time, hense the reason I became a teacher
1. Favre
*Not sure what that means. What about Favre?
2. For being such a draft wizard the only notable 1st pick is Hawk ( and trust me that didn’t take a rocket scientist)
*Hmmmmm...Aaron Rodgers ring a bell?
3. Drafting Harrell
*Ok, give you that one. Bad pick. But Wolf drafted Reynolds, advantage, push.
4. Firing Sherman he was a proven winner with only 1 losing season. Under his leadership, the Packers had won three consecutive division titles. ( that season we lost 4 or 5 RB's, you can't win if you don’t have balance)
* I liked Sherman, but I like McCarthy a lot more. Since his firing, I've questioned a lot of stuff Sherman did.
5. Firing most of the front office between the 2006-2007 season
* That is usually what happens when you hire someone new.
6. Thompson outright released safety and defensive leader Darren Sharper, who promptly defected to the Minnesota Vikings (and has had two Pro Bowl seasons, including leading the league in interceptions from his position, since being released).
* This one is debateable, but I personally never liked Sharper all that much. He'd get his token 9 interceptions a year, and miss 7000 tackles a year.
7. Thompson declined to resign either of the Packers Pro Bowl Guards, Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera. As any veteran QB knows, not resigning two of your primary protectors has to be a bad sign for your health. A worse sign? Thompson did not draft a single Offensive Lineman to replace Wahle or Rivera in the first day of the draft, and instead signed low priced guards - and, most considered, career backups - Matt O’Dwyer and Adrian Klemm. At the time, Thompson praised both to high heaven, saying that they had solved the offensive line problems and saved money at the same time.
*Rivera lasted, what like 4 games in Dallas, and then was broken. Wahle did OK in Carolina, but was never his Packer self.
8. Inheriting a 10-6 and "rebuilding" it to a 4-12 team.
* And then going 27-21 the next 3 seasons, along with a NFC Championship game.
9. Thompson passed on re-signing Pro Bowl kicker Ryan Longwell.
* Mason Crosby? Anyone? Hello?
10.Thompson passed on re-signing All-Pro center Mike Flanagan
* What a great disaster that was too? Flanagan has been non-stop injured, and cut. Damn!
11.Thompson signed Marquand Manuel away from the Seattle Seahawks, brought over DT Ryan Pickett from the St. Louis Rams, LB Ben Taylor from the Cleveland Browns, and cornerback Charles Woodson from the Oakland Raiders. Of Thompson’s free agent acquisitions from 2006, only Pickett and Woodson have played well - Manuel was an unmitigated disaster, and several others (Barry, Henderson, Taylor, and several other minor players) are today, less than two seasons later, all listed as “out of football.”
* Barry? He refused to sign back and went to Houston, where he was cut. Henderson, I love the man, but he was done.
12.Signing NY Giants DB Frank Walker, a career backup. Walker would finish the year with one (1) pass defended.
* The fact they were looking for a backup or special team player, not a starter...
13.WR James Jones in the third round (though Jones turned out to be a decent selection, but how his 676 yards for a third rounder beat Moss’s 1,493 for a fourth, I don’t know).
* Let it go.
14.Consider this for a moment: exactly four players out of Thompson’s ridiculously high number of draft selections (more than any other team over the same period) in any of the four years he’s been Packers GM have contributed anything significant to the success of the team.
* 4? Lets count...Jennings, Jones, Jackson, Spitz, Colledge, Hawk, Poop, Collins, Rouse...plus lets throw in Tramon Williams & Atari Bigby, oh, and Ryan Grant into the conversation.
15.And Last but not least because he has divided the fans of GB!
* Yes he did, he showed how stupid those people who bitched about trading Favre can be.
He's the GM...when he took over the team, he can, and should have cleaned house. Damn him for giving us a good base of young players to build around and move forward with. [/b]
I'm only going to respond to all of this, cause #1, I'm kind of bored, and #2, I like being a dick from time to time, hense the reason I became a teacher
1. Favre
*Not sure what that means. What about Favre?
2. For being such a draft wizard the only notable 1st pick is Hawk ( and trust me that didn’t take a rocket scientist)
*Hmmmmm...Aaron Rodgers ring a bell?
3. Drafting Harrell
*Ok, give you that one. Bad pick. But Wolf drafted Reynolds, advantage, push.
4. Firing Sherman he was a proven winner with only 1 losing season. Under his leadership, the Packers had won three consecutive division titles. ( that season we lost 4 or 5 RB's, you can't win if you don’t have balance)
* I liked Sherman, but I like McCarthy a lot more. Since his firing, I've questioned a lot of stuff Sherman did.
5. Firing most of the front office between the 2006-2007 season
* That is usually what happens when you hire someone new.
6. Thompson outright released safety and defensive leader Darren Sharper, who promptly defected to the Minnesota Vikings (and has had two Pro Bowl seasons, including leading the league in interceptions from his position, since being released).
* This one is debateable, but I personally never liked Sharper all that much. He'd get his token 9 interceptions a year, and miss 7000 tackles a year.
7. Thompson declined to resign either of the Packers Pro Bowl Guards, Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera. As any veteran QB knows, not resigning two of your primary protectors has to be a bad sign for your health. A worse sign? Thompson did not draft a single Offensive Lineman to replace Wahle or Rivera in the first day of the draft, and instead signed low priced guards - and, most considered, career backups - Matt O’Dwyer and Adrian Klemm. At the time, Thompson praised both to high heaven, saying that they had solved the offensive line problems and saved money at the same time.
*Rivera lasted, what like 4 games in Dallas, and then was broken. Wahle did OK in Carolina, but was never his Packer self.
8. Inheriting a 10-6 and "rebuilding" it to a 4-12 team.
* And then going 27-21 the next 3 seasons, along with a NFC Championship game.
9. Thompson passed on re-signing Pro Bowl kicker Ryan Longwell.
* Mason Crosby? Anyone? Hello?
10.Thompson passed on re-signing All-Pro center Mike Flanagan
* What a great disaster that was too? Flanagan has been non-stop injured, and cut. Damn!
11.Thompson signed Marquand Manuel away from the Seattle Seahawks, brought over DT Ryan Pickett from the St. Louis Rams, LB Ben Taylor from the Cleveland Browns, and cornerback Charles Woodson from the Oakland Raiders. Of Thompson’s free agent acquisitions from 2006, only Pickett and Woodson have played well - Manuel was an unmitigated disaster, and several others (Barry, Henderson, Taylor, and several other minor players) are today, less than two seasons later, all listed as “out of football.”
* Barry? He refused to sign back and went to Houston, where he was cut. Henderson, I love the man, but he was done.
12.Signing NY Giants DB Frank Walker, a career backup. Walker would finish the year with one (1) pass defended.
* The fact they were looking for a backup or special team player, not a starter...
13.WR James Jones in the third round (though Jones turned out to be a decent selection, but how his 676 yards for a third rounder beat Moss’s 1,493 for a fourth, I don’t know).
* Let it go.
14.Consider this for a moment: exactly four players out of Thompson’s ridiculously high number of draft selections (more than any other team over the same period) in any of the four years he’s been Packers GM have contributed anything significant to the success of the team.
* 4? Lets count...Jennings, Jones, Jackson, Spitz, Colledge, Hawk, Poop, Collins, Rouse...plus lets throw in Tramon Williams & Atari Bigby, oh, and Ryan Grant into the conversation.
15.And Last but not least because he has divided the fans of GB!
* Yes he did, he showed how stupid those people who bitched about trading Favre can be.
He's the GM...when he took over the team, he can, and should have cleaned house. Damn him for giving us a good base of young players to build around and move forward with. [/b]
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