Bus Cook - QB agent specialist

[swede]

Favre in his books says that Bus is like his best friend, so I can't see Bus not working in the best interest of Favre, I don't think Cook would pull any punches with Favre just because he doesn't want to lose his cash cow.

That's a sweet notion, agents being like nice people and all.

But an agent would eat his firstborn's hands if it would somehow net another 2.3 mil per year.

BTW welcome to the forum.

And not in an agent kind of way.

[Gunakor]

You don't know that at all. That is making quite the leap. Last time I checked Favre is a very financially wealthy grown man, and I'm pretty sure his agent works for him, not the other way around. My guess is Cook probably told him it was dumb, and Favre told him to screw off and did it anyway.

That is equally likely if not moreso than your theory.

You think Cook told him it was dumb? And I'm the one making a leap? Partial, if Favre plays one more year then Cook gets paid for Favre playing one more year. No fucking way Cook would have advised him NOT to come out of retirement. I think it's just as likely that Cook had a heavy influence on Favre's decision - possibly even the primary influence. There was a lot of money riding on this one for him personally.

[Partial]

Nowhere did I say he didn't tell him to come out of retirement. No kidding that'd be dumb

I'm saying I doubt he told him to handle it by going on Greta. It's clear Brett was pissed. Don't you think that any logical agent is trying to smother than flames instead of fueling the fire?

Cook represents a lot of players, and this sort of behavior has never occurred before. I don't think its fair to blame Favre's actions, right or wrong, on Cook.

[Gunakor]

Favre in his books says that Bus is like his best friend, so I can't see Bus not working in the best interest of Favre, I don't think Cook would pull any punches with Favre just because he doesn't want to lose his cash cow.

Favre may have said that about Cook, but it's not the same when the roles are reversed. Agents don't have friends, they have clients. Clients that make them money. It's the way they make a living. They work in the best interests of themselves, and use their clients to make them more money. I could absoluetly see Cook doing whatever he had to in order to make that money, including being decietful, especially considering he had earned so much of Favre's trust.

[Partial]

I'm sure Cook would risk the relationship with all his other clients to squeeze a few more bucks outta Favre. This conspiracy talk is crazy.

Half of being an agent is customer service. They need to be able to put up with a bunch of pre-madonnas and make them happy. I think they do need to be quite close with a lot of these players.

I think you're grasping at straws that aren't there. I think Cook is a fine agent. He represents many NFL players and we've never heard any wacky theories or stories involving any of them.

[Patler]

You don't know that at all. That is making quite the leap. Last time I checked Favre is a very financially wealthy grown man, and I'm pretty sure his agent works for him, not the other way around. My guess is Cook probably told him it was dumb, and Favre told him to screw off and did it anyway.

That is equally likely if not moreso than your theory.

Are you replying to me? Of course I don't know that. I expressed it as my opinion, not fact. However, as I have expressed on here before, I have had (and still do to a small extent) have some business and other relationships with professional athletes, and I know how they work with and through their agents, business managers, accountants, etc. I think Cook wears several hats for Favre.

I acknowledged that for most of his career Cook seemed to serve Favre well. Things went quite smoothly. I don't blame just Cook for the last few years. I said Favre's inner circle seemed to let him down. I already acknowledged that Favre may have shut them out in his actions the last few years. It may even have been likely.

It has nothing to do with being a grown man, or being told what to do. It has everything to do with being a business, which a player of Favre's stature is with his playing contract, his endorsements, his side businesses, his charitable foundations, etc. The last three or four years it seemed that some close to him made things worse, although I'm sure not intentionally so. Favre seemed a little rudderless in the off-seasons for several years. I also wonder if his father would have helped him through it better than those that were around.

That's why I am of the opnion that Favre's inner circle let him down.

[Gunakor]

Nowhere did I say he didn't tell him to come out of retirement. No kidding that'd be dumb

I'm saying I doubt he told him to handle it by going on Greta. It's clear Brett was pissed. Don't you think that any logical agent is trying to smother than flames instead of fueling the fire?

Cook represents a lot of players, and this sort of behavior has never occurred before. I don't think its fair to blame Favre's actions, right or wrong, on Cook.

Oh, sorry I was confused. I doubt that Greta was Cook's idea too, but Cook should have done a better job of explaining to him just how dumb an idea it was. If Cook was really one of Favre's best friends, has Favre said he is, Favre would have heeded that advice and not gone public with all of his dirty laundry. So while I think there may have been a passing statement from Cook to Favre that this was a bad idea, I don't think Cook really spent any time trying to pound that into Favre's head. And he should have IMO if he was really looking at the best interests of his client.

[Dylan McKay]

All I know is that Favre was Cook's first player to represent and I think because both of them went into this together it was more than a player/agent relationship. Cook has been nothing but loyal to Favre. Favre and Cook have never caused a problem in regards to financial matters with the Packers, infact they were usually willing to help the Packers in that regard.

[Dylan McKay]

Favre in his books says that Bus is like his best friend, so I can't see Bus not working in the best interest of Favre, I don't think Cook would pull any punches with Favre just because he doesn't want to lose his cash cow.

That's a sweet notion, agents being like nice people and all.

But an agent would eat his firstborn's hands if it would somehow net another 2.3 mil per year.

BTW welcome to the forum.

And not in an agent kind of way.

Glad to be here, this place reminds me of the movie Spaceballs

[mission]

Does Cook really represent a lot of players? I always thought Favre was his first and he was able to get Cutler and McNair on board because of the whole 'southern" thing. I never really thought he was a top tier agent... just known because of his dealings with Favre.

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He does Moss and a few other players. I'm sure he does more than we know of. He's becoming pretty well known. I'm sure Favre's recognition helped him in this regard.

[cpk1994]

The point is looking at an average is foolish.

Yet, you use it to repeatedly bash ARod with and fuel your hatred of him.

[Partial]

The point is looking at an average is foolish.

Yet, you use it to repeatedly bash ARod with and fuel your hatred of him.

Get out of here Troll. Let the adults have a convo instead of you threadjacking...

[cpk1994]

The point is looking at an average is foolish.

Yet, you use it to repeatedly bash ARod with and fuel your hatred of him.

Get out of here Troll. Let the adults have a convo instead of you threadjacking...

You are the one who repeatedly cites the offense's pts/game as an indictment of Rodgers. Yet now you call that same average foolish to look iat. So which is it?

BTW, You calling someone else a troll. Talk about the pot and the damn kettle.

[SnakeLH2006]

[quote="Dylan McKay"]

I disagree. In many of the games they lost the offense was horrible. What is your excuse for the abysmal performances in Jax, Tenn and Minne?

I'm not looking at individual games. The season is over now, so you don't have to do that either. I'm looking at the whole season.

If those are the only 3 games that you can point to that were abysmal performances, then that means that the other 13 performances were fine. 13 good performances in 16 opportunities is fine by me. You don't put up SEASON totals like that if your offense only has one or two good games.

You just won't be happy unless our offense scores 45 points on a weekly basis, will you?

He won't be happy until Rodgers is gone.

I guess I don't get it. Take Favre out of the situation pretend that he actually did retire. Would anyone really be complaining about how Aaron Rodgers played this season?[/quote]

Well...Partial would, then again, Snake believes Partial may really be Bus Cook. ....But you are new here, and will come to believe that too after some time. BTW...Welcome dude!! Snake loves logical posters.

So how well did Brett and Cutler do late games last year then, Partial? Just asking because Snake like Arod plenty (and was a huge Farvey supporter for years) yet have moved on and support out QB now. Yes, Arod had some late inconsistencies in 2008, but was he worse as a first year starter in those regards than a 18 year vet or your godsend Cutler?

Note: Someone messed up the quotes and Snake isn't gonna bother to fix it right now....The bold was from Dylan which I support, then Snake's reply.