""A SURE BET " TTT confident in roster AS IS

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I kind of agree. Defensive line backups and depth isn't what I'd call glaring need.

Are you effin' kidding me? Is this some kind of a joke?

[sharpe1027]

Why on earth would you want a GM to call out positions of need to the media? That directly implicates the current players on the roster. He might as well start naming players. Great idea.

Look, the guy could have said something better. Maybe some people are looking for a politician who makes us feel all warm and cozy when he speaks to the media. Frankly, I don't care about his media presence.

[Gunakor]

Thompson has very little in terms of savy or personal persona in front of the media. I think this is hurting him now, and it could also be a significant reason for him getting let go. He is not snotty with the media like the guy in New England, but he sure doesn't warm any hearts with goofy stare into the camera.

He is a decent evaluator of talent, but I still don't think he has built a team, just evaluated talent.

How is his goofy stare into the camera hurting him now? He doesn't owe the fans an explaination as to what direction he's looking. Any details he gives in front of a camera will be heard by everyone. Not just us Packer fans, but also other NFL teams who might use that info to get a jump on a specific player or prospect that we might be looking at ourselves. That goofy stare into the camera is exactly what I'd hope to expect. The fans don't need to know any specifics anyway.

As far as the statement itself, I tend to agree with him. The roster right now is not that different than the one that finished 13-3 a couple years ago and hosted the NFC Championship game. "Well how'd they go from 13-3 to 6-10 in one season if it was the same team?" The roster was the same, but due to injury it was a different team on the field. We now have a different strength coach, one with a reputation for keeping guys healthy and in shape. Assuming these guys stay relatively healthy and on the field, I don't see much problem at all with the guys we have already. And assuming that a couple might still go down with injury, I have no problem with TT drafting for depth. I just don't think we need new starters. I like the ones we have.

[The Shadow]

It's amazing that a few select posters are infuriated that we have a general manager with enough confidence and smarts to not constantly blab about plans. No, friends, the GM does not have to reveal all to you.
Deal with it.

[Gunakor]

I kind of agree. Defensive line backups and depth isn't what I'd call glaring need.

How did we go from 13-3 to 6-10 in just one season? Injuries. A litany of injuries on the defensive side of the ball. Devastating injuries to key starters that dramatically reduced the effectiveness of our defense.

If you ask me, depth is an EXTREMELY glaring need right now.

[RashanGary]

I think the anger toward TT comes from reading comprehension problems. He never said he was completely satisfied with the team. He did say there were no glaring holes in the starting lineup. I think that is accurate. Poppinga, Wells, Jenkins, Jolly, Bigby are really not horrible. They are our worst starters, but they are not "glaring needs to be replaced".


Now, if he came out and said he likes the team just how it is and plans to do nothing to upgrade it, well, that would be a problem. Judging by the tone of some here, that is what they read, and that is scary.

[RashanGary]

You read the history of man and you think, "boy, we've come such a long way. We understand so much and have learned from the errors of our ways".

The Salem witch trials, for example, stemmed from fear and a lack of knowledge. People did not know what they didn't know and rather than staying level headed, it was easier to assume what they wanted to believe as truth and some pretty nasty witch hunts occurred to good people.

Now, how many hundreds of years later, we're still foolishly arrogant and ignorant enough to fear and dislike what we do not understand. It's scary. Obviously it's on a different level, but that same ignorance and baseless arrogance is still present in people today.

[Freak Out]

You read the history of man and you think, "boy, we've come such a long way. We understand so much and have learned from the errors of our ways".

The Salem witch trials, for example, stemmed from fear and a lack of knowledge. People did not know what they didn't know and rather than staying level headed, it was easier to assume what they wanted to believe as truth and some pretty nasty witch hunts occurred to good people.

Now, how many hundreds of years later, we're still foolishly arrogant and ignorant enough to fear and dislike what we do not understand. It's scary. Obviously it's on a different level, but that same ignorance and baseless arrogance is still present in people today.

Some do believe TT needs to be drowned or burned at the stake but that is the only correlation between the Packers GM and the fucking Salem Witch trials.

[Dylan McKay]

Thompson has very little in terms of savy or personal persona in front of the media. I think this is hurting him now, and it could also be a significant reason for him getting let go. He is not snotty with the media like the guy in New England, but he sure doesn't warm any hearts with goofy stare into the camera.

He is a decent evaluator of talent, but I still don't think he has built a team, just evaluated talent.

How is his goofy stare into the camera hurting him now? He doesn't owe the fans an explaination as to what direction he's looking. Any details he gives in front of a camera will be heard by everyone. Not just us Packer fans, but also other NFL teams who might use that info to get a jump on a specific player or prospect that we might be looking at ourselves. That goofy stare into the camera is exactly what I'd hope to expect. The fans don't need to know any specifics anyway.

As far as the statement itself, I tend to agree with him. The roster right now is not that different than the one that finished 13-3 a couple years ago and hosted the NFC Championship game. "Well how'd they go from 13-3 to 6-10 in one season if it was the same team?" The roster was the same, but due to injury it was a different team on the field. We now have a different strength coach, one with a reputation for keeping guys healthy and in shape. Assuming these guys stay relatively healthy and on the field, I don't see much problem at all with the guys we have already. And assuming that a couple might still go down with injury, I have no problem with TT drafting for depth. I just don't think we need new starters. I like the ones we have.

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.


I am not asking for specifics from Thompson, I would hope I am smarter than that, but maybe a little insight on why these positions are "ok". Because I am not thinking these positions are "ok". A sentence or two to back up these statements is all I ask. If I just turned in a paper in my History class stating that Eisenhower was a good president and didn't care to back it up, I think I would get an "F" on that paper. I want to know How Poppinga is going to be better, or Hawk, or how Barnett is doing with his recovery, otherwise crawl back in your cave and turn the projector back on, stop wasting your time, and ours by filling our newspaper with drivel that I can get from watching soap operas all damn day.

[Gunakor]

Thompson has very little in terms of savy or personal persona in front of the media. I think this is hurting him now, and it could also be a significant reason for him getting let go. He is not snotty with the media like the guy in New England, but he sure doesn't warm any hearts with goofy stare into the camera.

He is a decent evaluator of talent, but I still don't think he has built a team, just evaluated talent.

How is his goofy stare into the camera hurting him now? He doesn't owe the fans an explaination as to what direction he's looking. Any details he gives in front of a camera will be heard by everyone. Not just us Packer fans, but also other NFL teams who might use that info to get a jump on a specific player or prospect that we might be looking at ourselves. That goofy stare into the camera is exactly what I'd hope to expect. The fans don't need to know any specifics anyway.

As far as the statement itself, I tend to agree with him. The roster right now is not that different than the one that finished 13-3 a couple years ago and hosted the NFC Championship game. "Well how'd they go from 13-3 to 6-10 in one season if it was the same team?" The roster was the same, but due to injury it was a different team on the field. We now have a different strength coach, one with a reputation for keeping guys healthy and in shape. Assuming these guys stay relatively healthy and on the field, I don't see much problem at all with the guys we have already. And assuming that a couple might still go down with injury, I have no problem with TT drafting for depth. I just don't think we need new starters. I like the ones we have.

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.


I am not asking for specifics from Thompson, I would hope I am smarter than that, but maybe a little insight on why these positions are "ok". Because I am not thinking these positions are "ok". A sentence or two to back up these statements is all I ask. If I just turned in a paper in my History class stating that Eisenhower was a good president and didn't care to back it up, I think I would get an "F" on that paper. I want to know How Poppinga is going to be better, or Hawk, or how Barnett is doing with his recovery, otherwise crawl back in your cave and turn the projector back on, stop wasting your time, and ours by filling our newspaper with drivel that I can get from watching soap operas all damn day.

Dylan, it doesn't matter what you think. That's the point. It only matters what HE thinks, and he doesn't have to divulge that information to you. How is telling you and I how everyone's rehab or development is coming along going to help this team win more games next year?

"If I just turned in a paper in my History class stating that Eisenhower was a good president and didn't care to back it up, I think I would get an "F" on that paper."

Yes you probably would. But you'd be handing that paper in to your teacher, the only person in the world whose final grade of that paper even matters. We fans are not TT's teacher, and our grade of TT doesn't matter one bit. You are under the assumption that TT owes us fans something that he really doesn't owe anybody outside the organization itself.

[Gunakor]

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.

Why was the Rock fired then? It certainly wasn't because they felt he was better than the guy they hired in his place...

[Rastak]

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.

Why was the Rock fired then? It certainly wasn't because they felt he was better than the guy they hired in his place...

Why was Rock immediately hired by someone else? Why did McCarthy talk him up when he hired him? It wasn't because he bad at what he does I would guess.

[3irty1]

I kind of agree. Defensive line backups and depth isn't what I'd call glaring need.

Are you effin' kidding me? Is this some kind of a joke?

I'm not saying there's not room for improvement but the starting lineup is more solidified than many teams. There's no reason to have grim expectations with the current roster.

[Dylan McKay]

Thompson has very little in terms of savy or personal persona in front of the media. I think this is hurting him now, and it could also be a significant reason for him getting let go. He is not snotty with the media like the guy in New England, but he sure doesn't warm any hearts with goofy stare into the camera.

He is a decent evaluator of talent, but I still don't think he has built a team, just evaluated talent.

How is his goofy stare into the camera hurting him now? He doesn't owe the fans an explaination as to what direction he's looking. Any details he gives in front of a camera will be heard by everyone. Not just us Packer fans, but also other NFL teams who might use that info to get a jump on a specific player or prospect that we might be looking at ourselves. That goofy stare into the camera is exactly what I'd hope to expect. The fans don't need to know any specifics anyway.

As far as the statement itself, I tend to agree with him. The roster right now is not that different than the one that finished 13-3 a couple years ago and hosted the NFC Championship game. "Well how'd they go from 13-3 to 6-10 in one season if it was the same team?" The roster was the same, but due to injury it was a different team on the field. We now have a different strength coach, one with a reputation for keeping guys healthy and in shape. Assuming these guys stay relatively healthy and on the field, I don't see much problem at all with the guys we have already. And assuming that a couple might still go down with injury, I have no problem with TT drafting for depth. I just don't think we need new starters. I like the ones we have.

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.


I am not asking for specifics from Thompson, I would hope I am smarter than that, but maybe a little insight on why these positions are "ok". Because I am not thinking these positions are "ok". A sentence or two to back up these statements is all I ask. If I just turned in a paper in my History class stating that Eisenhower was a good president and didn't care to back it up, I think I would get an "F" on that paper. I want to know How Poppinga is going to be better, or Hawk, or how Barnett is doing with his recovery, otherwise crawl back in your cave and turn the projector back on, stop wasting your time, and ours by filling our newspaper with drivel that I can get from watching soap operas all damn day.

Dylan, it doesn't matter what you think. That's the point. It only matters what HE thinks, and he doesn't have to divulge that information to you. How is telling you and I how everyone's rehab or development is coming along going to help this team win more games next year?

"If I just turned in a paper in my History class stating that Eisenhower was a good president and didn't care to back it up, I think I would get an "F" on that paper."

Yes you probably would. But you'd be handing that paper in to your teacher, the only person in the world whose final grade of that paper even matters. We fans are not TT's teacher, and our grade of TT doesn't matter one bit. You are under the assumption that TT owes us fans something that he really doesn't owe anybody outside the organization itself.

I guess we just differ on the issue than. I believe a hat of the GM is to connect to the fans, he is the leader of the football part of this organization, I guess in a town like Green Bay he doesn't have to worry about fans showing up, but if he was anywhere else I would suppose a more confident show of support for the football organization would be required.

but we disagree, I got that no need to keep arguing about it.

[Gunakor]

This for the most part is just foolishness, sorry but injuries are pretty much luck. The Packers in 2007 had the same strength coach and they got by just fine, in 2008 the injury bug hit. I can't honestly sit here and blame the strength coach, for one nobody from the Packers came out and blamed him specifically.

Why was the Rock fired then? It certainly wasn't because they felt he was better than the guy they hired in his place...

Why was Rock immediately hired by someone else? Why did McCarthy talk him up when he hired him? It wasn't because he bad at what he does I would guess.

You miss the point. I'm not arguing that Rock was bad. Not at all. I'm arguing that the guy we got in his place is percieved to be better, and that really can't be argued at all. If they didn't think that Redding was better than Rock, why would they not have just kept Rock? They made this move because in their estimation it will translate to better health of their players, which will lead to more efficient play on the field. How can anyone argue that?