Originally posted by rbaloha
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Are you serious? Talk about overrated hype! I can get down with the A.Smith pick, I think he'll turn out just fine ... but I caught two OSU games this year and the guy dropped 4-5 passes that I can remember. Physical specimen with rock hard hands. I don't get the hype. He doesn't look like a football player ... just a beast.
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Pettigrew at 9 is an amazing reach, for a player we don't need. Finley may already be a better receiving threat, and you don't draft a blocking TE in the top 10. Plus, the odds of Finley improving as a blocker and maturing as a route runner are worlds better than the odds of Pettigrew becoming fast and learning how to catch.Originally posted by missionAre you serious? Talk about overrated hype! I can get down with the A.Smith pick, I think he'll turn out just fine ... but I caught two OSU games this year and the guy dropped 4-5 passes that I can remember. Physical specimen with rock hard hands. I don't get the hype. He doesn't look like a football player ... just a beast.Originally posted by rbalohaOSU te Pettigrew.
Plus, Pettigrew has hands of stone, he drops everything, and the one common factor for virtually all the receivers and TEs Thompson has drafted is that they can catch. Jordy Nelson, great hands; Jermichael Finley, great hands; Brett Swain, good hands; James Jones, great hands; David Clowney, great hands; Clark Harris, decent hands; Greg Jennings, great hands; Terrence Murphy, great hands; Craig Bragg, decent hands.
The one notable exception is Cory Rodgers, who was cut very early in TC and was drafted primarily as a punt returner. You'll notice that all the guys who have anything less than "great hands" (Harris, Bragg, Rodgers), didn't even make the roster and were late round picks.
0% chance Thompson takes Pettigrew.
About Andre Smith, my being okay with the pick is contingent on Thompson and the rest of the scouts being okay with the pick. That is to say "if they pick A. Smith, I wouldn't be too upset since I trust their ability to evaluate talent more than mine" , but I'm not going to come out and argue that it's a good pick. For one thing, a lot of the knocks about him are that he's a knucklehead... but Thompson has talked to him, while I haven't.</delurk>
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Unlike a lot of people around here, I like Everette Brown. He didn't need to hire a trainer and go on a special diet to get his weight in the 250's like Maybin. He doesnt have the injury history of Orakpo. He's just a damn good football player who keeps getting better. 3 sacks in 2006, 6 in 2007, 13 in 2008.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Manhandled by a Badger tight end in 2009!!Originally posted by JoemailmanUnlike a lot of people around here, I like Everette Brown. He didn't need to hire a trainer and go on a special diet to get his weight in the 250's like Maybin. He doesnt have the injury history of Orakpo. He's just a damn good football player who keeps getting better. 3 sacks in 2006, 6 in 2007, 13 in 2008.
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2 tackles, 1 sack in a 42-13 win. he was probably bored playing a team like Wisconsin.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by Lurker64Maybin has the edge in every test, except the bench, and while Maybin's is reasonable, the discrepancy is easly attributed to Brown having spent a year more of his life in the weight room, and Maybin's ridiculously long arms. The fact that Maybin has a 6" advantage in the vert and a 13" advantage in the broad is very significant from an "evaluating pass rushers" perspective, since those numbers measure lower body explosion which is incredibly important for pass rushers.
I'm open to this guy being better. I haven't seen any of his sacks. It's tough for me to gauge.
You make a good point about the Big 10 OL. The other point for Maybin is his advanced coverage skills. They say he played quite a bit of coverage at Penn State and did very well in his zone responsibilities.
I don't know enough about him, but maybe you are right. Maybe he's the guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a great pro, I just don't know much about him.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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