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  • #16
    {ilr]3]
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    I agree with Patler; I think they are very comparable. I think those who think AROD is undoubtedly better...and there seem to be a lot.....are homers. I also this those who think Cutler is hands down the better QB are nuts as well. If you'd ask fans with some football knowledge with no bias either way who they would want at QB, I'd bet more would say Cutler
    .....A lot the talking heads in the media seem to think Rodgers is the better QB with out question.
    You know better. IN my other post I showed articles from all major sports websites that say just the opposite. The only talkoing heads that said that stupid crap was the two idiots that none of you like on ESPN until now when they seem to have an obvious bias against Cutler. I already provided proof of this.

    Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
    Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

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    • #17
      I think the main reason for the INT difference is that Cutler is playing using the entire field, where as A-Rod didn't use the middle of the field until late in the season, and even then it wasn't often.

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      • #18
        I think Cutler and Rodgers are pretty comparable, and the statistics seem to back that up. Cutler has a rocket arm and a gambler mentality. Having less game experience, I think Rodgers has more room to improve. Both are quality QB's.

        One difference really sticks out to me: I like how Rodgers handled all the scrutiny last offseason with the Favre retirement drama. That was a lot of pressure for a QB w/ 0 regular season starts. I don't think Cutler would have handled it with as much grace.

        As for the INTs vs. sacks, whether I'm the HC or just a fan, I'd rather see a QB throw the ball away or take the sack vs. throwing a bad pick. Each team only has so many possessions in a game, which is why turnovers and field position are important.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler
          Originally posted by packrat
          Taking the sack instead of throwing the interception is not a trivial difference. It is part of the reason why the change from Favre to Rodgers was made.
          It depends. If it is a QB who often completes the risky throw, making plays that others could not, you will gladly take the occasional interception to also get those completions. That was the situation throughout much of Favre's career. A lot of good for a little bad.
          But that is only if you can limit the bad somewhat thru playcalling. The last few years, save 2008 with McCarthy, the bad wasn't limited enough. Rodgers stayed within the gameplan so their wasn't so much bad that needed to be curtailed by the play calling.

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          • #20
            I just heard the news this morning on the Cutler trade to ChiTown. I think it's good news and it will put the rivalry between Packers and Bears into prominence again. Cutler and Rodgers are good friends so they have to be loving the idea they will play each other twice a year. Hopefully Rodgers will be the one talking smack!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Dabaddestbear

              Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
              Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

              Yet Denver averaged 116 yards rushing per game, while the Packers averaged 112.
              Denver averaged 4.8yds/carry, the Packers averaged 4.1.

              Which QB really had the support of a better running game???

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Patler
                Originally posted by Dabaddestbear

                Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
                Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

                Yet Denver averaged 116 yards rushing per game, while the Packers averaged 112.
                Denver averaged 4.8yds/carry, the Packers averaged 4.1.

                Which QB really had the support of a better running game???
                In this fight of Patler vs. The Bear Troll, I have Patler well ahead on my card. One more knockdown like this and the ref will have to call it.

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                • #23
                  Re: Rodgers/Cutler statistical comparison, head to head

                  Originally posted by Patler
                  2008 Performance
                  Category - Rodgers/Cutler

                  attempts - 536/616
                  completions - 341/384
                  comp. % - 63.6%/62.3%
                  total yards - 4038/4526
                  yds/att. - 7.5/7.3
                  touchdowns - 28/25
                  interceptions - 13/18
                  comp. for 1sts - 182/222
                  sacks - 34/11
                  sack yds - 231/69
                  passer rating - 93.8/86.0
                  carries - 56/57
                  rush yds - 207/200

                  Cutlers biggest advantage - avoiding sacks
                  Rodgers biggest advantage - avoiding interceptions.
                  Could be that the two go hand in hand. To avoid a sack, Cutler makes a risky throw. To avoid the risk of an interception, Rodgers takes sacks.

                  Beyond that, not a lot of difference between the two in statistical performance.

                  i wonder what the time-of-possession was for each team?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    I think the main reason for the INT difference is that Cutler is playing using the entire field, where as A-Rod didn't use the middle of the field until late in the season, and even then it wasn't often.
                    Whoa Partial, back the train up. I thought Rodgers is what he is though and won't improve at all? You just pointed out here one thing that he can and will improve on with more playing time and experience. Or is Rodgers always gonna be a quarterback who doesn't use the whole field?
                    Go PACK

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dabaddestbear
                      {ilr]3]
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      I agree with Patler; I think they are very comparable. I think those who think AROD is undoubtedly better...and there seem to be a lot.....are homers. I also this those who think Cutler is hands down the better QB are nuts as well. If you'd ask fans with some football knowledge with no bias either way who they would want at QB, I'd bet more would say Cutler
                      .....A lot the talking heads in the media seem to think Rodgers is the better QB with out question.
                      You know better. IN my other post I showed articles from all major sports websites that say just the opposite. The only talkoing heads that said that stupid crap was the two idiots that none of you like on ESPN until now when they seem to have an obvious bias against Cutler. I already provided proof of this.

                      Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
                      Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

                      i just thought this was funny as hell coming from you Baddest... with all the discussions about BF last offseason, now its ok to throw INTs if you throw more passes... hmmmm...
                      Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
                      Comin' down in candied toys, smokin' weed and talkin' noise!!!

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Patler, good info.

                        It will be interesting to see how Cutler performs with far less talent around him. I'm confident that Rodgers will have another great year, and the Pack can turn it around!

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                        • #27
                          I expect Rodgers to always look better on paper but there are a lot of things to love about Cutler. If nothing else Bears fans finally got an offense that's worth watching on TV. I think the trade is in the Bears favor but we'll see how the Broncos use those picks.
                          70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by cpk1994
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            Originally posted by Dabaddestbear

                            Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
                            Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

                            Yet Denver averaged 116 yards rushing per game, while the Packers averaged 112.
                            Denver averaged 4.8yds/carry, the Packers averaged 4.1.

                            Which QB really had the support of a better running game???
                            In this fight of Patler vs. The Bear Troll, I have Patler well ahead on my card. One more knockdown like this and the ref will have to call it.
                            "DaBaddest Bear is staggering! Blood is streaming down his face; his right eye is swollen shut! He's looking wobbly on his feet - I'm surprised the referee hasn't stepped in already. One more blow and -

                            Ohh! Down goes Dabear! Down goes Dabear! Down goes Dabear!"
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              Originally posted by cpk1994
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              Originally posted by Dabaddestbear

                              Rodgers is a good QB, and may be great one day. But in no way after only one year starting is he or can he be compared to a QB that has been very good the past 3 years, and had a running game that only rushed for 100 yards TWICE last year and yet still put up those numbers even when everyone was dropping back to defend the past.
                              Yes he threw for more INT's, but he threw many more passes.

                              Yet Denver averaged 116 yards rushing per game, while the Packers averaged 112.
                              Denver averaged 4.8yds/carry, the Packers averaged 4.1.

                              Which QB really had the support of a better running game???
                              In this fight of Patler vs. The Bear Troll, I have Patler well ahead on my card. One more knockdown like this and the ref will have to call it.
                              "DaBaddest Bear is staggering! Blood is streaming down his face; his right eye is swollen shut! He's looking wobbly on his feet - I'm surprised the referee hasn't stepped in already. One more blow and -

                              Ohh! Down goes Dabear! Down goes Dabear! Down goes Dabear!"
                              I assume you meant to type

                              BEAR DOWN! BEAR DOWN!
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
                              This is museum quality stupidity.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by run pMc
                                I think Cutler and Rodgers are pretty comparable, and the statistics seem to back that up. Cutler has a rocket arm and a gambler mentality. Having less game experience, I think Rodgers has more room to improve. Both are quality QB's.

                                One difference really sticks out to me: I like how Rodgers handled all the scrutiny last offseason with the Favre retirement drama. That was a lot of pressure for a QB w/ 0 regular season starts. I don't think Cutler would have handled it with as much grace.
                                Excellent thread, Patler!

                                This poster brings up another huge point.One unmeasureable not mentioned in the comparison is the maturity factor. Last season, I thought Aaron Rodgers handled the entire Brett Favre retirement/unretirement/trade debacle with remarkable personal and professional poise. Not only did Rodgers have to replace a legendary, future HOF quarterback, he had to replace a legendary, future HOF quarterback who was still playing in the NFL for another team!

                                On the other hand, Jay Cutler showed a great deal of immaturity when he found out his new coach was considering a possible trade. He cut off communication between himself and the entire Broncos organization which resulted in the recent trade to the Bears.

                                As a Packer fan, I have a considerable amount of confidence with Aaron Rodgers as the Packers QB.

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