Waldo's Mock Offseason

[Lurker64]

Re: Waldo's Mock Offseason

Sounds like you have us replacing Hunter with a new Hunter that is a couple years younger. Hunter is good special teamer in his own right. I doubt we spend a draft pick to upgrade this position by a couple of years.

I think we just need to throw some darts at the WOLB position in the later rounds, since it's not clear to me that Poppinga is a competent starter at that position. A fifth round pick for a guy with some upside at that position is entirely reasonable.

[Waldo]

Re: Waldo's Mock Offseason

*trade* - Green Bay trades Al Harris to Buffalo for #147

I find it surprising that you think Hunter won't make the team.

Not that I think Hunter is bad, but I think that Melton has an exceptional amount of upside on ST. I'm sure he still has RB instincts and vision, couple those with 270 lb defensive player that runs a 4.6 flat, dude would be an absolute demon on kickoff coverage and punt coverage.

Not to mention his upside at OLB, which is quite good as well.

Basically every pick after the 3rd round I had ST in mind as well as regular play, as that is how they make the roster.

Sounds like you have us replacing Hunter with a new Hunter that is a couple years younger. Hunter is good special teamer in his own right. I doubt we spend a draft pick to upgrade this position by a couple of years.

Hunter is making 1M this year and is a FA next year (if there is a new CBA). If he doesn't break out soon, he's never going to. IMO we draft his replacement this year. If Hunter breaks out, the guy is cut. If the new guy is a flop, he's cut. If Hunter doesn't take a step forward and the new guy looks like he has a chance, and is good on ST too, time to give up on the Hunter project. This is year 4, if he's not pushing to start, he's not worth keeping.

[Waldo]

I'd really like to get a 6'2" 230lbs WR that beat some of Jennings' records. I'm intrigued by some of these small school guys, and with a frame like that, he'd be a BEAST in the slot.

Runs a 4.5 flat too. I'm not sure why he isn't considered more highly by any draft source. But his size/speed combo is incredibly intriguing, he's the size of a small fullback and faster than Jones.

[3irty1]

I like the Jamarko Simmons pick too. I've never seen him play but if he's a converted H-Back I bet he can get some YAC.

"Pick him up!"

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I'd really like to get a 6'2" 230lbs WR that beat some of Jennings' records. I'm intrigued by some of these small school guys, and with a frame like that, he'd be a BEAST in the slot.

Runs a 4.5 flat too. I'm not sure why he isn't considered more highly by any draft source. But his size/speed combo is incredibly intriguing, he's the size of a small fullback and faster than Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVUWsyOop8

Dude looks like a beast! Reminds me a bit of Boldin ... real good body control and seems like the kinda guy TT would go for. Runs some DBs over too...

edit - no red flags on the guy? seems like he wouldnt be THAT far under the radar, especially since Jennings put WMich on the map a bit.

BTW - the beat on that youtube video has to be one of the worst "hip hop productions" I've ever, ever heard.

[3irty1]

Re: Waldo's Mock Offseason

Sounds like you have us replacing Hunter with a new Hunter that is a couple years younger. Hunter is good special teamer in his own right. I doubt we spend a draft pick to upgrade this position by a couple of years.

I think we just need to throw some darts at the WOLB position in the later rounds, since it's not clear to me that Poppinga is a competent starter at that position. A fifth round pick for a guy with some upside at that position is entirely reasonable.

Yeah sure throw some darts, its a reasonable pick. I'm just saying I'd be surprised if Hunter was cut.

[3irty1]

I'd really like to get a 6'2" 230lbs WR that beat some of Jennings' records. I'm intrigued by some of these small school guys, and with a frame like that, he'd be a BEAST in the slot.

Runs a 4.5 flat too. I'm not sure why he isn't considered more highly by any draft source. But his size/speed combo is incredibly intriguing, he's the size of a small fullback and faster than Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVUWsyOop8

Dude looks like a beast! Reminds me a bit of Boldin ... real good body control and seems like the kinda guy TT would go for. Runs some DBs over too...

edit - no red flags on the guy? seems like he wouldnt be THAT far under the radar, especially since Jennings put WMich on the map a bit.

BTW - the beat on that youtube video has to be one of the worst "hip hop productions" I've ever, ever heard.

You posting that video here is going to double its views. Currently 229.

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I'd really like to get a 6'2" 230lbs WR that beat some of Jennings' records. I'm intrigued by some of these small school guys, and with a frame like that, he'd be a BEAST in the slot.

Runs a 4.5 flat too. I'm not sure why he isn't considered more highly by any draft source. But his size/speed combo is incredibly intriguing, he's the size of a small fullback and faster than Jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRVUWsyOop8

Dude looks like a beast! Reminds me a bit of Boldin ... real good body control and seems like the kinda guy TT would go for. Runs some DBs over too...

edit - no red flags on the guy? seems like he wouldnt be THAT far under the radar, especially since Jennings put WMich on the map a bit.

BTW - the beat on that youtube video has to be one of the worst "hip hop productions" I've ever, ever heard.

You posting that video here is going to double its views. Currently 229.

One of the few videos Ive ever seen posted on Youtube without a single comment... I might have to leave one. :P

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Pro day news coverage (WMU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvwbvqZFneQ&feature=related

Simmons basically said: "ill play special teams, any position and go anywhere... Ill go to Green Bay, etc, etc ... "

Definitely said GB first

(ok, I'm done)

[Waldo]

You can either follow traditional WR mantra - outrun 'em, TT seems to be seeking a different angle, beat 'em up. Jones weighs 220, Jordy weighs 215. Relatively speaking, they are huge for WR's, especially since they aren't 6'5".

[texaspackerbacker]

While I like a lot of the individuals mentioned, I don't really like the positions picked., and I really don't like your depth chart.

Carlos Rogers: a very good player who would be nice to get, but not much value due to the contract situation; I suppose, though, you don't have us giving up much--just #9 down to #13.

I don't see Al Harris getting traded.

I think #13 is still too high for Tyson Jackson.

Getting one OLB like Melton late would be about the limit.

Unger would be a good pick up even if we don't get an OT in the first round, but I can't see him starting.

I can't see Popinga starting. He should back up Kampman, with Thompson, Hunter, and Chillar on the other side at OLB.

I don't see us drafting a RB unless some real gem falls to us in the mid rounds. Davis is a good one, though, so he might fit the gem description. More likely, we go into the season with what we have at RB.

Simmons sounds like a great late round pick. If we get a new WR, though, I think/hope it will be more of a Pat White-type player (or White himself) who can give us the capability for some option or wildcat type plays.

I can't see the Packers drafting a replacement fullback, but maybe.

As much as I'd like to see Chase Coffman be a Packer, I doubt they will draft a TE.

[Waldo]

Just curious, what do you think that we are going to draft? 10 defensive lineman?

The positions that we have been scouting the heaviest this offseason have been TE, RB, and OLB. We've been linked to almost every prospect at these positions.

I was just changing things up this mock with Coffman, I usually have Cameron Morrah from Cal in that area.

I'd be shocked if we go into camp with 4 RB's. 5-6 is the bare minimum IMO. Any RB drafted will have KR high on the list of things they don't suck at.

C. Brown is nothing like Melton. Melton switched from being a RB and is still learning defensive (more akin to Barwin). C. Brown has played as a true freshman and has been consistently getting to the QB since. He's much more similar to L. English in that respect, being a lot more experienced than the first rounders. The only real difference with Larry is Larry is bigger and has a place in a 4-3 defense, Cody is more athletic and is best suited at 3-4 OLB, he's a little small for 4-3 DE.

I wouldn't be so sure about Poppinga. I bet there's a 65%+ chance he's the starter, unless we draft Clay Matthews. Pops is much better in coverage than the DE's on the team, and much more stout agaisnt the run than the rest of the LB's on the team. He's going to be tough to beat.

Fiametta is the best FB in the class, perhaps the best in a few years. He has great hands and is in Beanie's league speed wise, faster than Moreno. He would definitely upgrade the position. Plus he's a great blocker already. We've already shown a lot of interest in him.

[cpk1994]

Washington is thought to be trying to deal Campbell

For a pro bowl QB.

Snyder wants to win...NOW. Taking a college senior...not going to win now.

But you are making the assumption that Dan Snyder is smart. He ain't.

[Fritz]

It will be fun to bring this thread back on draft day...see if any of these names pop up on the Packer list of picks.

I'm surprised that the Packers have not shown more interest in defensive linemen. Maybe Tex is running the team...

I'd be good with a trade down and Tyson Jackson. You can't count on Jolly and Harrell, so you need someone to provide a potential starter, though I know rooks don't do that too often....

Thanks, Waldo. I like everything but trading Al for a 5th. At his relatively cheap price, couldn't he be worth a 4th?

[Lurker64]

Thanks, Waldo. I like everything but trading Al for a 5th. At his relatively cheap price, couldn't he be worth a 4th?

He's 34 and has lost enough steps to this point where he's practically a one trick pony, though he's great at what he does. A guy who you draft in the 4th may well be a guy who you expect to groom into a starter in the next three years. Al Harris isn't going to be with any team in three years.