Excellent Analysis on Rodgers

[Partial]

Bedard did a really nice write up on Rodgers yesterday.

Whether you agree with it or not, its worth a read and brings up good points.

Just yesterday I read somewhere on this board that someone was comparing Rodgers' season to Peyton Manning's. I'm sorry, but that is simply hysterical. Like the 2007 Packers offense, the Colts offense attacks you. It's a down the field big play offense quarterback-predicated offense, not the dink and dunk receiver based offense the Packers run now. Hopefully this article opens a few eyes to see how average his year was.*

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/42530467.html

He basically says this:

- Stats don't tell the whole story when the offense is vanilla and designed to minimize mistakes and be efficient.

- Plenty of players have gotten more done with less ability and less talent around them

- Rodgers estimated trade value is probably no where near Jay Cutlers, because he hasn't shown nearly as much on the field

- Rodgers had 4 game killing interceptions last year, and he will not be looked at as a closer until he learns how to win

* I normally don't like Bedard, but this was a pretty good piece. I tend to agree that Rodgers has a lot of potential to be very good, but he needs to capitalize on that. I'm not confident that he will.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Excellent Analysis on Rodgers

Bedard did a really nice write up on Rodgers yesterday.

Whether you agree with it or not, its worth a read and brings up good points.

Just yesterday I read somewhere on this board that someone was comparing Rodgers' season to Peyton Manning's. I'm sorry, but that is simply hysterical. Like the 2007 Packers offense, the Colts offense attacks you. It's a down the field big play offense quarterback-predicated offense, not the dink and dunk receiver based offense the Packers run now. Hopefully this article opens a few eyes to see how average his year was.*

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/42530467.html

He basically says this:

- Stats don't tell the whole story when the offense is vanilla and designed to minimize mistakes and be efficient.

- Plenty of players have gotten more done with less ability and less talent around them

- Rodgers estimated trade value is probably no where near Jay Cutlers, because he hasn't shown nearly as much on the field

- Rodgers had 4 game killing interceptions last year, and he will not be looked at as a closer until he learns how to win

So Snake is pretty bright, but cloudy on a few key issues....

You are a Packer fan?? Yes or no?

SNAKE FACTS:

1) Favre is either retired or fading out the sunset regardless for some other team.

2) You like Cutler but he is now on a rival NFC North team.

3) WTF does this shit prove/disprove?

You make a snarky topic about how "bad" ARod is compared to a 12 year vet? How the hell does this contribute? It's not only asinine, but proves you have a one-way ticket to join DaBaddestBear for forum shame.

Do you support our team? If not, get the fuck out! I don't see how this contributes to ANY Packer logic/comraderie on this forum. Are you bitter we didn't send over half of the next decades' picks for Cutler? Really, how does this do any logical forwarding of this forum? Favre is done. Get over it. You may hate TT, but please get over that crap and contribute something intelligent and insightful.....Unbelievable BS. Go be a Bears fan while you still can. They'd prob. throw you off the bus, too, after listening to your childish rants every other day. Christ Almighty. Be gone fool.

[Fritz]

Some people think a QB is as good as his record. I believe a good QB makes his team better, but I also think that the talent that surrounds a QB (or the lack of talent) is pretty much out of the QB's hands; therefore, I don't put as much stock into QB won/loss records as others might. It's important, but I believe it's unfair to put too much stock into something one player cannot control.

I take issue with Bedard's assessment that Rodgers would garner no better than a late first round pick. If Thompson put Rodgers out on the market, he'd get more than that.

[MJZiggy]

Some people think a QB is as good as his record. I believe a good QB makes his team better, but I also think that the talent that surrounds a QB (or the lack of talent) is pretty much out of the QB's hands; therefore, I don't put as much stock into QB won/loss records as others might. It's important, but I believe it's unfair to put too much stock into something one player cannot control.

I take issue with Bedard's assessment that Rodgers would garner no better than a late first round pick. If Thompson put Rodgers out on the market, he'd get more than that.

And be called an idiot for trying to trade him. Partial, you say you don't hate him, prove it with your actions and get off his ass already. Geez.

[packrulz]

JSO sucks, I don't even read it anymore. More importantly, ARod is getting laid in Vegas!

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/outofbounds/index.shtml

[PlantPage55]

Re: Excellent Analysis on Rodgers

- Stats don't tell the whole story when the offense is vanilla and designed to minimize mistakes and be efficient.

- Plenty of players have gotten more done with less ability and less talent around them

- Rodgers estimated trade value is probably no where near Jay Cutlers, because he hasn't shown nearly as much on the field

- Rodgers had 4 game killing interceptions last year, and he will not be looked at as a closer until he learns how to win

I don't think these points are good at all. Some of them aren't even valid. Our offense is designed to minimize mistakes?! Which ones aren't?!

By the way, Favre made the most mistakes of any QB in the last 5 years in an offense that is inherently less mistake-prone?!

Vanilla? Aaron Rodgers led the league in passes over 40 yards!!!

Bedard basically bases his whole article on the "fact" that Jay Cutler has proven more, even though he hasn't had a winning season ever and has a losing record, as it currently stands. He blames it on the defense for Cutler.

Then, he downgrades Aaron Rodgers for being 6-10 and having a defense that blew it for him in the end, game after game after game. What sense does that make?

No, I think this is a piss-POOR article, yet again intended to cater to the JSO comment board frequents, because that's where all the detractors seem to aggregate. It's nothing but poorly thought out spinster garbage.

"learns how to win"? That's a vomit-inducing cliche. Aaron Rodgers "won" us the game time and again in the end and our defense blew it. I don't know how many times it has to be said.

I can't believe the idiots on the JSO board that actually write "Aaron Rodgers is 6-10" and then stand by that statement. As if the QB should be labeled with the wins and losses. That is tired and simplistic thinking generated by a media that loves the quarterback and pretends that the other positions do not exist.

[Fritz]

He's just having a nice chat with a young lady at the lemonade social.

[cpk1994]

Re: Excellent Analysis on Rodgers

Bedard did a really nice write up on Rodgers yesterday.

Whether you agree with it or not, its worth a read and brings up good points.

Just yesterday I read somewhere on this board that someone was comparing Rodgers' season to Peyton Manning's. I'm sorry, but that is simply hysterical. Like the 2007 Packers offense, the Colts offense attacks you. It's a down the field big play offense quarterback-predicated offense, not the dink and dunk receiver based offense the Packers run now. Hopefully this article opens a few eyes to see how average his year was.*

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/42530467.html

He basically says this:

- Stats don't tell the whole story when the offense is vanilla and designed to minimize mistakes and be efficient.

- Plenty of players have gotten more done with less ability and less talent around them

- Rodgers estimated trade value is probably no where near Jay Cutlers, because he hasn't shown nearly as much on the field

- Rodgers had 4 game killing interceptions last year, and he will not be looked at as a closer until he learns how to win

* I normally don't like Bedard, but this was a pretty good piece. I tend to agree that Rodgers has a lot of potential to be very good, but he needs to capitalize on that. I'm not confident that he will.

Bedard is an assclown who is pushing his bosses anti-Packer agenda at MJS. I guess he has a lot in common with you, especially the assclown part. Becuase it comes from Bedard, its total trash.

[Fritz]

I like to think that if both Cutler and Rodgers stay healthy we will know a lot more about who's worth what, but oftentimes we keep our opinions and try to force reality to fit into them.

That's why I'm saying I'm gonna end up with Drew Barrymore!!

[Bossman641]

That was garbage

[sheepshead]

Brett Favre was 4-12 once.

[SkinBasket]

I usually don't take the time to write guys with poor football analytical skills about their blogs or tweets or whatever other means of distributing their special brand of stupid is, but I just wanted to drop you a line to say that your brain farts about Rodgers are pretty dumb from top to bottom and deserved the effort of derision. Have a great day and watch the games next season. It helps when you're trying to stumble your way through another dumb idea.

Sincerely

[sheepshead]

[SkinBasket]

I doubt you have permission to use that.

[Partial]

You guys are nuts. Trash article because it makes valid points where a journeyman compares favorably to Rodg?

C'mon, dude hasn't shown anything except 6-10 w/ a big arm and a knack for throwing the game away when its all on the line.

Most deep passes in the league: Not surprised, Jenning is a stud and Rodgers throws a nice deep ball. They play it safe, and don't throw balls over the middle of the field. Our offense defined vanilla this year.

Losing record: Sure, Cutler has a losing record, but he's shown that when his team is in the game, he can close. That is an important quality that A-Rod has so far not displayed.

Makes excellent point of Rodgers still be injury prone. We'll see how that turns out. Hopefully he'll stay healthy. The article just makes a point that Rodgers shouldn't be annoited the king of Wisconsin yet, as we're not even close to knowing what we have in him as a long term starter. A lot of players look good throwing the ball to a Jennings entering his prime. How many QBs did Moss put in the pro bowl and MVP races??

Naturally, anything that you don't agree with is garbage, and Bedard is an ass clown. Right . It's refreshing to see someone who can see A-Rod for what he is. A 5th year player who hasn't been better than the 12th best person at his position in the league.