Flynn and Brohm get to work in offseason program

[rbaloha1]

Surprised Brohm struggled so much in year one. As mentioned in an earlier expect Brohm to emerge as "Mr. August" maybe in year 3 thus providing future multiple draft picks.

[KYPack]

Surprised Brohm struggled so much in year one. As mentioned in an earlier expect Brohm to emerge as "Mr. August" maybe in year 3 thus providing future multiple draft picks.

Me too.

I was always very impressed with Brian Brohm at U of L. When I was talking about college football that I watch now, I neglected to mention Louisville. They have 6-7 UL games a year on TV here. That UL attack is some neat stuff. They spread it out and go go go.

One of the best operators of that offense was defintely Brohm. Brohm had a great pocket presence and could really read defenses. If he would have left after his junior year, he'd have been a number 1 pick. Possibly even a top 10 guy. In his senior year, they didn't have much of an OLine. Brohm was usually scrambling for his life. UL runs a pro set and multiple offense. Brohm seemed a perfect pick when we got him with that two. I was so pro-Brohm, I damned near posted a bunch of stuff about Brohm giving Rodgers a serious run for his money.

Thank God I didn't make any. Brohm looked like he just fell off a turnip truck at GB this year. He hit the "rookie wall" in May.

I really think Brohm will turn out OK for us. But don't look for any sweeping predictions from me.

[SnakeLH2006]

Surprised Brohm struggled so much in year one. As mentioned in an earlier expect Brohm to emerge as "Mr. August" maybe in year 3 thus providing future multiple draft picks.

Me too.

I was always very impressed with Brian Brohm at U of L. When I was talking about college football that I watch now, I neglected to mention Louisville. They have 6-7 UL games a year on TV here. That UL attack is some neat stuff. They spread it out and go go go.

One of the best operators of that offense was defintely Brohm. Brohm had a great pocket presence and could really read defenses. If he would have left after his junior year, he'd have been a number 1 pick. Possibly even a top 10 guy. In his senior year, they didn't have much of an OLine. Brohm was usually scrambling for his life. UL runs a pro set and multiple offense. Brohm seemed a perfect pick when we got him with that two. I was so pro-Brohm, I damned near posted a bunch of stuff about Brohm giving Rodgers a serious run for his money.

Thank God I didn't make any. Brohm looked like he just fell off a turnip truck at GB this year. He hit the "rookie wall" in May.

I really think Brohm will turn out OK for us. But don't look for any sweeping predictions from me.

Snakey too, man, it's WAY....TOO EARLY to call Brohm a bust, as he has all the tools, smarts, and pedigree to beast at this NFL level, yet Snake has never seen such a "looks ready now" guy with his pedigree/hype to look SOOOOO bad in his rook season.

In retrospect, wasn't that pick ballyhooed by draft "experts" and Snake and his buddies...lol...as a great pick "in case" Arod tanked out as a starter. Now that we know Arod is a beast, this can only work out better as Brohm was just useless last year, yet he may walk the walk in the next year or two and net us a first and then some if he can live up to his status as QB beast from HS and College, and the Draft.

Snake's Take:

Brohm will work it out as QB's are a finicky breed. He's got it all, just has to learn how to play at the NFL level. We'll laugh in 2-3 years when Oakland gives us 2 firsts for him (just gotta pray Big Al is still kicking tho)

It's looking rough for Big Al though as of late (Note: is this guy human? And...man he just scares Snake..just saying, and yea it's a real pic, so fork over those 10 first rounders for Brohmy Snakey says!!!)

Wow, just damn WOW:

[CaliforniaCheez]

Rodgers looked very bad his first 2 years and you could tell the light clicked in on in year 3.

It is still risky if Rodgers is injured this season. Less risky than last year, though.

By next season things will be fine.

[KYPack]

Snake,

I really think Brohm was over confident. He played for years in a pro type offense and ran it very well. He has one brother who played in the NFL and another who is a coach. All the scouting reports said he was one of the guys who would make the transition from college to pro the best of all.

I think he believed his own press clippings. When he got behind and played poorly, he panicked. He got further behind and stayed behind the old 8 ball.

He needs a fresh start and the realization that the NFL is a whole different ball game and he has to learn it all, just like any young QB.

He's a smart, tough kid and he will bust his ass to make it.

I wisely didn't make any predictions last year and i ain't gonna make any this year, but I think he'll be OK.

Maybe.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Flynn and Brohm get to work in offseason program

Even as the starter, Rodgers still participates to keep himself sharp and improving, as well as to help teach Flynn and Brohm at times.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Do you guys remember how horrible Rodgers looked in his first two seasons? It's far too early to develop an opinion on Brohm. I'm sure he'll be fine. MM is a great QB coach.

ARod looked lost in his first preseason. However, Brohm didn't even look like he belonged. With ARod, you could see physical ability to lead you to believe he had a chance. Brohm looked less physically gifted than the 7th round pick last year.

Also, Rodgers did not look horrible in his second preseason. I suppose this is where you'll argue that ARod's 101 passer rating in his second preseason wasn't legit.

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To agree with Harv, Brohm makes Pennington look like he has a strong arm. I just don't see it physically... I want to! Whatever that game was when he came in last year and guys were running 8-10 yard hooks. He wasn't even in the right neighborhood on passes.

Flynn, at least he's scrappy.

[Waldo]

As time went on the QB's went different directions. Brohm actually looked pretty good early in camp, then he started to nosedive. Flynn OTOH looked like garbo until midway through camp when all of a sudden a light went on for him.

[KYPack]

To agree with Harv, Brohm makes Pennington look like he has a strong arm. I just don't see it physically... I want to! Whatever that game was when he came in last year and guys were running 8-10 yard hooks. He wasn't even in the right neighborhood on passes.

Flynn, at least he's scrappy.

Brohm impressed me with his arm at UL. In camp, the boy went into a shell like I can't believe. I feel he simply lost all his confidence and was reluctant to commit himself. He's got show something this camp. A #2 pick, he'll be given every opportunity to prove himself. If he plays as poorly this pre-season, they may be forced to make a move.

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Do you guys remember how horrible Rodgers looked in his first two seasons? It's far too early to develop an opinion on Brohm. I'm sure he'll be fine. MM is a great QB coach.

ARod looked lost in his first preseason. However, Brohm didn't even look like he belonged. With ARod, you could see physical ability to lead you to believe he had a chance. Brohm looked less physically gifted than the 7th round pick last year.

Also, Rodgers did not look horrible in his second preseason. I suppose this is where you'll argue that ARod's 101 passer rating in his second preseason wasn't legit.

Stop with the agenda. They both looked horrible the first preseason. Absolutely terrible. Neither looked like they belonged. Knowing Rodgers was basically a baby it was more expected, and one has to be dissapointed in Brohm's showing, but stop with the agenda dude.

Rodgers second preseason was pretty bad. He had one huge game that really helped out his numbers.

You have a game where he had a 130+ rating on 6 attempts because he connected on a deep pass. What that number doesn't reflect is the fumble he lost. He also took 3 sacks. He took 10 total drop backs, and had 3 sacks, a fumble, 3 completions, and 3 incompletions. He did however connect on two deep bombs for TDs. IMO, this one is called getting lucky on the deep balls. (50% completion percentage)

In another game, he went 9 for 11, with a total of 14 drop backs, with 3 sacks, a fumble, and an int. He didn't throw any touchdowns, and had a rating of 75. (unusually high completion percentage to me says it was a lot of dump offs as that completion percentage is quite the anomaly for his preseason -- typically it was closer to 50%)

In another game, Rodgers went 2 of 6, without any TDs, sacks, fumbles, etc for a rating of 42. (33% completion percentage)

In the last game, he went 8 for 15, with 3 sacks, a fumble, and 1 td. (53% completion percentage)

Overall, he had 3 TDs (2 in one game on two long bombs), 1 int, 2 lost fumbles (1:1 ratio of TD to turnover), was sacked on ~20% of his drop backs, and had a 58% completion percentage(this number is pretty strange to me because he only had ONE game above 53%. My guess is it was a ton of dump off passes as it is a serious statistical anomaly). Not stellar numbers at all for a QB.

I'm surprised his rating was that high. I, as well as most people on this board -- most likely even including yourself Harv -- thought he looked pretty darn dissapointing in his second preseason. I would use the site search function and find some evidence from you, but I have a hella busy day ahead of me.

Here is a link for the naysayers. http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronrodg...93&season=2006

[texaspackerbacker]

To agree with Harv, Brohm makes Pennington look like he has a strong arm. I just don't see it physically... I want to! Whatever that game was when he came in last year and guys were running 8-10 yard hooks. He wasn't even in the right neighborhood on passes.

Flynn, at least he's scrappy.

Brohm impressed me with his arm at UL. In camp, the boy went into a shell like I can't believe. I feel he simply lost all his confidence and was reluctant to commit himself. He's got show something this camp. A #2 pick, he'll be given every opportunity to prove himself. If he plays as poorly this pre-season, they may be forced to make a move.

True. This sounds a lot like Aaron Rodgers his first season or two, when he had so many detractors--for what seemed like good reason at the time. Brohm came with a good arm, and I really doubt it has gotten worse.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Here is a link for the naysayers. http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronrodg...93&season=2006

Thanks for the proof that he wasn't HORRIBLE. He was average. Probably what you'd expect from a second year QB.

Brohm went 19 of 42 for just 155 yards with 0 TDs, 1 int, and 3 fumbles last preseason. That is horrible.

[rbaloha1]

To agree with Harv, Brohm makes Pennington look like he has a strong arm. I just don't see it physically... I want to! Whatever that game was when he came in last year and guys were running 8-10 yard hooks. He wasn't even in the right neighborhood on passes.

Flynn, at least he's scrappy.

Brohm impressed me with his arm at UL. In camp, the boy went into a shell like I can't believe. I feel he simply lost all his confidence and was reluctant to commit himself. He's got show something this camp. A #2 pick, he'll be given every opportunity to prove himself. If he plays as poorly this pre-season, they may be forced to make a move.

Recall Brohm was coached hard by his brother in college. Draft people were saying that Brohm was the most NFL ready qb and would thrive without his brother.

Well maybe they are wrong. Flynn is a scrapper and winner.

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Here is a link for the naysayers. http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronrodg...93&season=2006

Thanks for the proof that he wasn't HORRIBLE. He was average. Probably what you'd expect from a second year QB.

Brohm went 19 of 42 for just 155 yards with 0 TDs, 1 int, and 3 fumbles last preseason. That is horrible.

Brohm was horrible, I agree. I think its pretty unfair to compare a first year player to a second year player, though. I'm sure Brohm is going to be fine. MM knows how to coach QBs.

If I had to guess, he is the 3rd string again this year. I think he'll have another dissapointing preseason. Next year I think he'll put it together and be one of the better back-ups in the league, and eventually be a nice trade that will at least generate a second.