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  • Official Draft Rumors Thread

    It's draft week, and draft week is a time of wild speculation and baseless rumor.

    To start it off, I thought This was interesting. It's a compilation of convictions that (scouting pioneer) Gil Brandt holds about the draft.

    The highlights:

    • LSU DE Tyson Jackson will go in the Top 5. Not might. Will. This qualified as the biggest shocker, to me, since almost every mock draft I looked at pegged Jackson to be a mid- to late first-rounder at best. I thought the Top 5 was pretty locked in, too. But, of course, I shouldn’t have doubted Mr. Brandt. I asked around after the show to see if I could confirm it, and sure enough one NFL source I know did tell me he’s heard the Kansas City Chiefs might take Jackson at No. 3, or trade down and take him a few picks later.

    • The Seattle Seahawks, at No. 4, will likely select either Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree or USC QB Mark Sanchez.

    • Crabtree will fall somewhere between Picks 4 and 10, though given the variables it was impossible to guess exactly where.

    • The Oakland Raiders will take a receiver at No. 7 (and it’s hard to imagine them passing on Crabtree if he’s available, so I suppose we can narrow down Crabtree’s placement to 4-7).

    • There will be no defensive backs taken in the Top 10.

    • The Saints, at No. 14, are looking for a big cornerback, and Ohio State’s Malcolm Jenkins is a good bet to be their guy.

    • The New England Patriots, at No. 23 will take a linebacker.

    • Oklahoma T Phil Loadholt (6-7, 332) will go in the first round of the draft. His teammate, G Duke Robinson (6-5, 330, and the top-rated guard on most boards), will not.

    • Cincinnati DE Connor Barwin didn’t begin this process as a first-rounder, but he has managed to sneak himself into the bottom of the first round.

    • The Buffalo Bills are targeting a DE with the 11th pick (and not Tennessee DE Robert Ayers, by the way). They are also pretty high on Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew, but aren’t likely to take him unless they trade down a few spots. (Important note: Things have obviously changed a little since then, since the Bills acquired a second first-round pick from Philadelphia in the Jason Peters trade. Now the Bills have both the 11th and 28th pick. Of course, they also have an obvious need for a tackle).
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  • #2
    Thanks for digging that up, Lurker. Would've never found that.

    And it's great to see Ralph Vacchiano is doing something useful now that his 'Karate Kid' days are behind him... oh, wait... nevermind.

    As for the content, Tyson Jackson as a top 5 pick? I didn't realize one dimensional run stuffers had become so valuable. But I guess it's more an issue of supply and demand. College football simply does not produce DE's like him anymore. I suppose the spread offense has made the giant end obsolete at the college level.

    The college spread offense is starting to really impact the NFL. In this draft season I've already read/heard about the spread making it nearly impossible to analyze QB's, WR's, and OL who come from such systems. You're also seeing fewer and fewer big DE's in the past five years or so. You get the 240# guys that are too small for an NFL end, but they haven't had to cover anybody in college so they have a steep learning curve at LB as well.

    There has always been some discrepency between some of the playbook du jour offenses in college and the NFL, but it seems like that discrepency is wider now than its ever been. That makes it harder and harder to project who can play in the NFL, but meantime the money these rookies demand keeps going up, up, up.

    Anyway, I wouldn't mind at all if this means that Curry or one of the better tackles gets pushed down.
    #14

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    • #3
      I just heard a few minutes ago on Sporting News radio that all the rumors about BJ Raji flunking his drug test at the combine are bogus. In fact, they said not 25 but only about 10 actually had drug test problems. So maybe all the drug test rumors about some top guys should be ignored.
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
        I just heard a few minutes ago on Sporting News radio that all the rumors about BJ Raji flunking his drug test at the combine are bogus. In fact, they said not 25 but only about 10 actually had drug test problems. So maybe all the drug test rumors about some top guys should be ignored.
        I thought this was resolved a couple weeks ago...?

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        • #5
          I didn't hear it til now. Maybe I'm behind the curve.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
            I didn't hear it til now. Maybe I'm behind the curve.
            Well, now that you mention it, the "official" article came out today, but I think a doctor a couple weeks back told the media that none of the "big guys" failed their tests. But you're right, the results were just now "officially" released.

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            • #7
              Some interesting stuff from National Football Post.http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...umors-sliders/
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Waldo, one of our resident experts, says we ought to put a lot of stock into what Gil Brandt and Kirwan say...Kirwan has the Pack taking Jackson, and Brandt has him going to the Chiefs at three or trading down with maybe Washington to try to nab Jackson there...

                The key for a GM is not to fall in love with one player, unless you've got the first pick overall. You have to identify three or four guys you'd be happy with at your spot - that way you don't panic. If you have to have a certain guy, and the rumors are flying that someone ahead of you will take him, you end up selling out your draft to get the "have to have" guy. And who knows, really, how any rookie will work out?
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #9
                  Here's a hot rumor that's guaranteed to come true!

                  I just purchased the Pro Football Draft Guide 2009.

                  The editor-in-chief, Scott Gramling, says the best wide receiver sleeper in the draft is Jordy Nelson, Kansas State!
                  One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                  John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                  • #10
                    Wasn't it Kirwan who predicted, or at least suggested that TT might go for Harrell when almost no one else saw it coming? Speaking of Harrell, he's still rehabilitating the back and not working out with teammates. That just makes a pick of jackson all the more logical. Here's Kirwan's latest mock:http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...s&confirm=true

                    He has the Pack taking Jackson, and like a bunch of people, has TT taking Barwin in the 2nd.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
                      Here's a hot rumor that's guaranteed to come true!

                      I just purchased the Pro Football Draft Guide 2009.

                      The editor-in-chief, Scott Gramling, says the best wide receiver sleeper in the draft is Jordy Nelson, Kansas State!
                      I know we're stocked at WR, but I sure hope we get that guy. He'd look good in Green and Gold.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joemailman
                        Wasn't it Kirwan who predicted, or at least suggested that TT might go for Harrell when almost no one else saw it coming? Speaking of Harrell, he's still rehabilitating the back and not working out with teammates. That just makes a pick of jackson all the more logical. Here's Kirwan's latest mock:http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09...s&confirm=true

                        He has the Pack taking Jackson, and like a bunch of people, has TT taking Barwin in the 2nd.
                        It's that whole "Packer people" thing with Barwin. Kid just seems to ooze Green and Gold. High character, hard working, versatile, that is MM and TT's kind of guy.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lurker64
                          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi
                          Here's a hot rumor that's guaranteed to come true!

                          I just purchased the Pro Football Draft Guide 2009.

                          The editor-in-chief, Scott Gramling, says the best wide receiver sleeper in the draft is Jordy Nelson, Kansas State!
                          I know we're stocked at WR, but I sure hope we get that guy. He'd look good in Green and Gold.

                          You have some mad photoshop skills, Lurk.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz

                            The key for a GM is not to fall in love with one player, unless you've got the first pick overall. You have to identify three or four guys you'd be happy with at your spot - that way you don't panic. If you have to have a certain guy, and the rumors are flying that someone ahead of you will take him, you end up selling out your draft to get the "have to have" guy. And who knows, really, how any rookie will work out?
                            Sherman.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez
                              Originally posted by Fritz

                              The key for a GM is not to fall in love with one player, unless you've got the first pick overall. You have to identify three or four guys you'd be happy with at your spot - that way you don't panic. If you have to have a certain guy, and the rumors are flying that someone ahead of you will take him, you end up selling out your draft to get the "have to have" guy. And who knows, really, how any rookie will work out?
                              Sherman.
                              Shermhead.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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