Official Draft Rumors Thread

[RashanGary]

Hmmm. . . . . Makes you wonder if there is a highly coveted 3-4 player that could go in our range.

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I think I'd give them #9 for #23 and #34. 34 is a really good pick to have this year.

IMO, this draft is awful. You're getting a guy you'd typically get at 20 at 10. You're getting a guy you'd typically get at 60ish at 40.

This team has plenty of depth imo outside of the lines. What they need is a star.

I'm all for swinging for the fences. If TyJack is the best 3-4 end prospect since Seymour and can have an impact like Seymour, than you stand pat and draft him.. no questions asked.

If you think Orakpo is freakishly similiar to Sean Merriman, then you stand pat and draft him.

Unless they think Larry English or Connor Barwin are not a huge step down from the kind of guys you're getting at 10, then no way do you trade down imo. These opportunities to get top 10 picks should be few and far between (though if we keep trading down and don't accumulate another star to compliment Jennings -- admittedly a second round pick -- they will be more common).

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't see the trade happening, but I think the point would be that they don't think Jackson is anywhere near Seymour or Orakpo is even close to Merriman. More than there aren't many studs and there's not a whole lot of difference between 9 and 23. I don't buy that the Pats are looking to move up--even before they know who is available.

[Lurker64]

It's weird to think that the Patriots would be trying to trade up to the low top 10 at this point for Jackson, considering there's no guarantee that Jackson would get past Kansas City or Cleveland (there's been a lot of noise on the "Tyson Jackson is a lock in the top 5" issue recently). So if they weren't sure he was going to be there at eight (and they shouldn't be), they shouldn't be trying to make a trade now (unless it's a provisional "if player x is there, we'll give you picks A and B for that pick" offer, I don't know if teams do that sort of thing.)

So who else could they be after? Jenkins?

It's also possible that Peter King is just making stuff up or unwittingly disseminating misinformation.

[RashanGary]

Lurker,

I think they would be happy with one of several and feel they could get one at that spot (they probably assume a few will be gone). I think the players are probably front 7 defensive players becuase that is what they badly need.

It makes me feel pretty good about our spot (knowing NE is a damn smart organization, runs the same defense, needs the same type of players and wants to be near our spot). Jacksonville runs a 4-3. They could let a damn fine 3-4 prospect drop in our laps. I'm getting a little juiced here.


I also think they like the chances of Sanchez dropping and maybe getting even better value out of the pick with a trade as an option C, D or E. They're pretty much trading up to be able to have options similar to ours. I like it. In the words of Loyd Christmas, "I like it a lot".

[Lurker64]

There could also be a "New England has 11 picks in this draft. Eleven rookies aren't going to make the Patriots roster this year. Why not try to package some picks who aren't going to get you much value anyway in order to get a guy who has a higher shot at being an impact player" angle to this.

But then again, virtually everybody on the NE roster is a free agent next year.

[RashanGary]

NE might also feel that they have a better chance of trading up now than tomorrow when a falling Sanchez could drive the price through the roof.

[RashanGary]

Good point, Lurker, didn't think of that. They could part with the later picks to move up a couple of spots in the 2nd or 3rd instead of parting with a super valuable 2nd round pick.

I still think they think our spot is a good spot to be for a 3-4 defender or at the very least, a hell of a player.

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There could also be a "New England has 11 picks in this draft. Eleven rookies aren't going to make the Patriots roster this year. Why not try to package some picks who aren't going to get you much value anyway in order to get a guy who has a higher shot at being an impact player" angle to this.

But then again, virtually everybody on the NE roster is a free agent next year.

Do you think 9 draftees are going to make the Packers roster? If so, that's just turning over the bottom.