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  • Everette Brown won't get past teh Pats (twice), the Browns, Bengalsm and Dolphins. What a draft that would be though! To get E. Brown in the 2nd. WOW! Not going to happen though.

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    • Insider's take on the Lions TE pick.....


      20. Detroit Lions (From Dallas)
      The pick: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State
      What he brings: Pettigrew is the most complete tight end prospect in this class. At 263 pounds he's an effective drive-blocker who can hold his own working against NFL defensive ends. Although he lacks elite speed and isn't going to stretch the field as much as some other prospects in this class, Pettigrew is a reliable possession receiver who does an excellent job throwing his weight around and using his frame to shield defenders from the ball.

      How he fits: The Lions need help at more positions than they have picks. Pettigrew provides a weapon and safety valve for Matthew Stafford to go along with WR Calvin Johnson. He is a unique tight end in that he can be a weapon in the passing game and re-establish the edge in the running game. We are a little surprised the Lions didn't take an offensive or defensive linemen because of need, but they acquired a solid player.

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      • Originally posted by Joemailman
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        Originally posted by Partial
        I'm really hoping one of the solid OLB prospects are available in round 2. Could see TT trading up to get one here if they start to get picked.
        Brown, Matthews, Sintim, and Barwin are all still on the board. I'd be happy with any of those guys at 9.
        I'd take 'em at 41.
        Me too...
        </delurk>

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        • NE will get one of the USC LB's.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Originally posted by Waldo
            Originally posted by Lurker64
            Originally posted by Partial
            I'm really hoping one of the solid OLB prospects are available in round 2. Could see TT trading up to get one here if they start to get picked.
            Brown, Matthews, Sintim, and Barwin are all still on the board. I'd be happy with any of those guys at 9.
            I have a soft spot in my heart for Ziggy. I think that he is Castillo 2.

            Waynbe Larivee was reporting last week on the radio that GB loves him and is hoping he's there in round two

            Of course, he also said flat out GB does not think Crab will be there at 9 but if he's there they will take him

            So I guess he's just as full of shit as the rest
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Vontae Davis is going to be a complete asshole in Miami. My God! He'll be arrested outside a nightclub in downtown Miami by August!

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman
                NE will get one of the USC LB's.

                Clay Matthews just seems like a Bellichek guy
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • I have never read more hateful reviews by "scouts" then those of V. Davis. A complete headcase.

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                  • Phins take Vontae davis.....great value pick!





                    Overall Football Traits

                    Production 2 2006-'07: Davis starts all 24 games, recording a total of 128 tackles, including 6.5 tackles-for-loss. He intercepts five passes, breaks up 14 passes and returns four kickoffs for a total of 116 yards. 2008: Davis starts 11 of the 12 game he appears in, recording 78 total tackles including seven tackles-for-loss. He intercepts two passes, breaks up eight passes and forces three fumbles. Davis returns five kickoffs for a total of 99 yards.

                    Height-Weight-Speed 1 Possesses ideal height and is thickly built for a corner. Also possesses outstanding top-end speed for the position.

                    Durability 1 Didn't miss a game with an injury in three years as a starter.

                    Character 4 Illinois head coach Ron Zook did not start him versus Iowa in 2008 because reportedly felt he wasn't playing as well as he could. Lack of visible improvement from sophomore to junior year is a concern. We've been told by multiple sources that he lacks proper respect for coaches and he only works hard when he's in the mood to do so. Vontae's brother is 49er TE Vernon Davis, who is currently underachieving in the NFL.

                    Defensive Corner specific Traits

                    Recognition Skills/Toughness 3 Displays natural playmaking instincts. Understands how receivers are trying to attack coverage. Reads quarterbacks' eyes when drops into zone coverage and does a sound job of mid-pointing high-low routes. Also shows toughness in run support when he wants to get involved. However, he does not show great awareness in zone coverage. His inconsistent footwork and diagnostic skills get him in trouble. He does not show good attention to detail and he's only physical when he wants to be.

                    Closing Burst 1 Explosive, quick-twitch athlete. Elite closing burst, especially when receivers catch the ball in front of him. Shows a second gear when tracking the ball downfield and fast enough to recover when gets caught out of position.

                    Fluidity 2 Fluid hips and makes smooth transitions forced to change directions quickly. Flips hips quickly when turning and running with receivers and can play close to the line of scrimmage.

                    Ball Skills 2 Natural hands and catches most balls he gets his hands on. Can play the ball without going though the receiver. Does a nice job of timing jumps when going up for the jump ball.

                    Run Support 2 Quickly recognizes run and can be extremely aggressive in run support. Strong open field tackler that does a solid job of going low and knocking ball carriers off their feet. Sheds receivers in a timely manner. Only knock here is his inconsistent effort.
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                    • Why is ESPN not announcing what picks are getting swapped in the trades? Why do they suck so much?

                      Does anyone know what Balt. gave up to move up a couple spots?

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                      • Wells, Britton, Barwin, Beatty, Sintim, Delmas, S. Smith, and E. Brown are the top guys for me for the Packers on the board right now.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • Well, I trust Capers. If Capers is stoked about the Raji pick, I guess I can get on board. Hoping we land either a stud OLB, Maualuga, or a DE in round 2. Maualuga would be the ultimate pick-up in round two.

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                          • NE looking to trade out per ESPN.

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                            • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Wells, Britton, Barwin, Beatty, Sintim, Delmas, S. Smith, and E. Brown are the top guys for me for the Packers on the board right now.

                              going braindead; who is S Smith ?

                              Like the rest; and very good chance one or two makes it

                              Beanie will be gone I'd think for sure
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • This draft seems poor. I bet Thompson trades one of our picks for a pick in 2010.
                                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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