Pickett at DE / Pickett gone after a year

[Partial]

Do you guys think Pickett can be a DE in a base 3-4? I don't know if he can.

Also, the notion I'm hearing from many here of letting a solid vet in his prime as an NT walk next year as a free agent is not a good idea imo. You keep your solid vets entering their prime.

[packers11]

I think we keep him... T.T. learned his lesson on having little depth at the D-Line (2008 season), if he doesn't break the bank, I believe Pickett still has a future in Green Bay...

[Gunakor]

Re: Pickett at DE / Pickett gone after a year

Do you guys think Pickett can be a DE in a base 3-4? I don't know if he can.

Also, the notion I'm hearing from many here of letting a solid vet in his prime as an NT walk next year as a free agent is not a good idea imo. You keep your solid vets entering their prime.

If his deal could be renegotiated and he take a slight paycut I wouldn't have a problem with it, provided he proves serviceable as a NT this season. But he's making a pretty healthy salary for a backup NT.

I think Pickett could play outside in a pinch, but I'd hate to see him out there on a regular basis.

[packers11]

https://www.rotoworld.com

Raji is at his best penetrating and most 3-4 nose tackles two-gap, but Dom Capers' scheme allows more freedom. An outstanding value here, Raji could spell Ryan Pickett on passing downs and kick to end on early downs. The Packers are needy at both positions

[rbaloha1]

Pickett can play de. My concern is Jenkins at de.

If Harrell stays healthy maybe Jenkins should be traded.

[Gunakor]

Pickett can play de. My concern is Jenkins at de.

If Harrell stays healthy maybe Jenkins should be traded.

If Jenkins stays healthy why should he be traded? He was the one guy on our roster I was sure could be a 3-4 DE if healthy, seeing as he was stout enough to play DT and explosive enough to play DE in the 4-3. I'm worried about his durability out there, but not at all worried about his ability to play the position.

[Partial]

Pickett can play de. My concern is Jenkins at de.

If Harrell stays healthy maybe Jenkins should be traded.

I don't think Jenkins will be able to stay healthy for an entire season, but if he is I think of him as a VERY good 3-4 end. Anyone who can get that sort of penetration up the middle against a double team should do very well outside I would think.

I think Harrell might finally get healthy now that he can play at 305-310 (what he played in college) instead of 330-340.

[Packnut]

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Partial- you need to start REALLY understanding the responsibility of a DE in the 3-4. You can't treat it the same as the 4-3. It's totally different.

The SOLE purpose of a DE in the 3-4 is to occupy blockers so that the LB can make the play.

So, going on that basis. Why can't Pickett and Raji play at the same time?
Either one can play DE in this scheme. Both can penetrate and blow up plays. Why not Jenkins, Raji and Pickett up front? IF and I mean IF harrell ever gets on the field, he jumps into the rotation.

[Partial]

I completely understand the responsibility. You need to have good lateral movement. Pickett might be too big and stout to move laterally.

If all you wanted was big fat strong uggs, why doesn't every team line up an NT at DE in a 3-4?

Not sure if Pickett can handle it. I'd say Raji has a better chance playing outside than Pickett 'cause of his rare athleticism.

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tt is the one that said pickett could play DE

[Packnut]

I completely understand the responsibility. You need to have good lateral movement. Pickett might be too big and stout to move laterally.

If all you wanted was big fat strong uggs, why doesn't every team line up an NT at DE in a 3-4?

Not sure if Pickett can handle it. I'd say Raji has a better chance playing outside than Pickett 'cause of his rare athleticism.

Ah, but that's the point. If your strong enough to get penetration, you don't have to worry about moving laterally.

[Lurker64]

All depends on how things go on the field. If Pickett is sufficiently effective this year, we'll pay to keep him.

[rbaloha1]

The 3-4 the Packers are playing requires 3 stout d-linemen. The position titles and where they line-up are meaningless.

The top 3 imo are Raji, Jenkins and Harrell.

[RashanGary]

I see Pickett playing mostly NT this year. It's going to take Raji a year or more to really refine his technique to be better than Pickett if I had to guess.


If I had to guess how they play, I'd guess this


Pickett plays 65% of total snaps at NT mostly in base situations
Raji plays 35% of total snaps at NT (mostly pass rushing situations)

Raji and Pickett both play some in a 4 man front during run/goalline situaitons.

Raji could play a little DE in situations that the coaches think he can excel in (select matchups and situations).


All in all, I think big fat guys should play no more than 75% of snaps. Both of these guys should get about that number. I think the Packers would be smart to try to lock up Pickett to another deal. Why not? You can never have enough good Dlineman.

[rbaloha1]

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I think the Packers would be smart to try to lock up Pickett to another deal. Why not? You can never have enough good Dlineman.

Age and injury history preclude locking up Pickett to a long term contract. Resign at around NFL veteran minimum next offseason.