LORD FAVRE comeback part deux...!!!

[Gunakor]

Why are you guys rehashing this?

The summer of '08 Favre saga is like religion or politics. Everyone has firmly set beliefs and it's pointless trying to change peoples minds unless your goal is to offend.

What's Obama's new line? Mistakes were made but we're going to look forward?

Go back a page and you'll see why. It's not being rehashed just to debate Favre. An attack was made on one poster by another, and I jumped in to defend the victim of this attack. This discussion is me explaining my defense.

[retailguy]

Why are you guys rehashing this?

The summer of '08 Favre saga is like religion or politics. Everyone has firmly set beliefs and it's pointless trying to change peoples minds unless your goal is to offend.

What's Obama's new line? Mistakes were made but we're going to look forward?

Go back a page and you'll see why. It's not being rehashed just to debate Favre. An attack was made on one poster by another, and I jumped in to defend the victim of this attack. This discussion is me explaining my defense.

yep, that pretty much sums it up... there is a certain small segment of the population that is incapable to admit wrong.

[falco]

yep, that pretty much sums it up... there is a certain small segment of the population that is incapable to admit wrong.

I agree with your entire statement except for the portion in bold.

[retailguy]

yep, that pretty much sums it up... there is a certain small segment of the population that is incapable to admit wrong.

I agree with your entire statement except for the portion in bold.

careful, you'll get this moved to fyi...

I'll agree it is a bigger segment all the time, but, still, what are there here? 20-25 people here who you could "tag" with that label?

Is that really that large? I think the political discussion makes it worse. That's why it is banned on a lot of boards. (this is just my opinion.)

[falco]

Is that really that large?

I would put it close to 75%. That's the beauty of the internet.

Of course I could be wrong (I admit it).

[retailguy]

Is that really that large?

I would put it close to 75%. That's the beauty of the internet.

Of course I could be wrong (I admit it).

really? that high. wow.

[MJZiggy]

Nah, I think even RG's assessment might be a little high...though those who won't admit it are rather vehement about it.

[retailguy]

Nah, I think even RG's assessment might be a little high...though those who won't admit it are rather vehement about it.

Yep, that's my take, but you really think 20-25 is high? I won't name them, but I think I could get that high.

vehement? you betcha.

[MJZiggy]

Just a little. I was thinking around 15ish.

[MOBB DEEP]

im startn to think its 50-50 now....incredible; deanna has to be like "come on now...."

and favre lovers are like "yeah, COME ON NOW....LET'S GOOOOOO...!!!"

mike greenberg contends that if he goes to metrodome they will be the FAVORITE to win div and a STRONG superbowl contender

one emailer to mike n mike says he thinks favre willl return b/c he needs his name to be constantly mentioned - lol....

i agreee with golic that he just simlpy LOVES PLAYN THE GAME; "u dont act that excited for 20 years [jumpn in linemen's arms, throwing snowballs at driver, etc....] if u dont truly love the game"


GO CELTICS!!!!

[Gunakor]

mike greenberg contends that if he goes to metrodome they will be the FAVORITE to win div and a STRONG superbowl contender

The Vikings are probably the favorites to win the NFC North even without Favre. But they probably aren't STRONG Super Bowl contenders even with him.

You know what? He better go get that surgery done on his throwing shoulder if he wants to come back, or it'll be a long season for him and the team that signs him. Playing in a dome isn't gonna protect him from his own physical breakdowns. He's quite capable of lighting up defenses even to this day, but not with a broken wing. So adding Favre won't in and of itself make any team any more a SB contender than they already were IMO.

[KYPack]

mike greenberg contends that if he goes to metrodome they will be the FAVORITE to win div and a STRONG superbowl contender

The Vikings are probably the favorites to win the NFC North even without Favre. But they probably aren't STRONG Super Bowl contenders even with him.

You know what? He better go get that surgery done on his throwing shoulder if he wants to come back, or it'll be a long season for him and the team that signs him. Playing in a dome isn't gonna protect him from his own physical breakdowns. He's quite capable of lighting up defenses even to this day, but not with a broken wing. So adding Favre won't in and of itself make any team any more a SB contender than they already were IMO.

Greenberg needs to stick with what he knows. & what is that, exactly?

My big question is Brett's physical condition. He needs to get knifed for that arm tendon, doesn't he? Can that injury heal up with rehab, or does it require the surgery? I just can't see Brett being effective after a pretty lax off-season. He could well be on the brink off totally embarrassing himself.

[Harlan Huckleby]

My big question is Brett's physical condition. He needs to get knifed for that arm tendon, doesn't he? Can that injury heal up with rehab, or does it require the surgery? I just can't see Brett being effective after a pretty lax off-season. He could well be on the brink off totally embarrassing himself.

I don't think FAvre is going to embarass himself, he'll only play if he is healthy. I think you're right that the big unknown is his conditioning and particularly the injury. If the arm feels good this summer, he's playing. And Favre is not much for spring training anyway, so the timing would be just about right for that itchy feeling.

Favre didn't embarass himself with the Jets, he played very well through 3/4 of a season, then his arm crapped out.

[Pacopete4]

My big question is Brett's physical condition. He needs to get knifed for that arm tendon, doesn't he? Can that injury heal up with rehab, or does it require the surgery? I just can't see Brett being effective after a pretty lax off-season. He could well be on the brink off totally embarrassing himself.

I don't think FAvre is going to embarass himself, he'll only play if he is healthy. I think you're right that the big unknown is his conditioning and particularly the injury. If the arm feels good this summer, he's playing. And Favre is not much for spring training anyway, so the timing would be just about right for that itchy feeling.

Favre didn't embarass himself with the Jets, he played very well through 3/4 of a season, then his arm crapped out.

This is exactly how I feel too. If his arm is good to go, and only Favre will be able to tell ya that one, he will play. And if he is healthy and in good shape, it could be a long season as the Vikings only really need a QB thats adequate and Favre can still be that kind of QB, no doubt in my mind.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Favre didn't embarass himself with the Jets, he played very well through 3/4 of a season, then his arm crapped out.

I wouldn't say he embarrased himself (the end was embarrasing), but I think it's a stretch to say he played well for 3/4 of the season. After the week 4 game where he threw 6 TDs, he threw 3 TDs and 8 interceptions in the next 4 weeks. He barely was used in a 47-3 blowout the following week. Then, he conjured up some old Favre magic in two big wins against New England and Tennessee. I think the Arizona game and the two big games there hid the fact that he was mostly average. Even at that point, he threw 10 TDs and 2 interceptions in those 3 games and 10 TDs and 11 interceptions in the other 8 games. He ended the year throwing 2 TDs and 9 interceptions in the final 5 games, and the Jets went 1-4 in those games with only one of those games against a team with a winning record.

Brett had 9 games where his QB rating was 76 or lower. Aaron Rodgers had 3 of them. Same with the guy he beat out for the Pro Bowl, Philip Rivers.