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Since I have basically watched every Packer game from the 70s on, I know a hell of a lot more about sucky Packer teames than you do. Two losing seasons in the last four isn't anything but a bump in the road. The Packers had 4 winning seasons total in the 70s and 80s.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
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Originally posted by ThunderDanSince I have basically watched every Packer game from the 70s on, I know a hell of a lot more about sucky Packer teames than you do. Two losing seasons in the last four isn't anything but a bump in the road. The Packers had 4 winning seasons total in the 70s and 80s.Originally posted by Pacopete4He no ones dissing the Packers of the old but come on, this team wasn't even on the map anymore before Brett/Holmy/Wolf got here. Ya we had a couple exciting players but the national media coulda gave two shits less about us. Favre and Co. brought this team back to mattering to a lot of people and re-energized a city/state/nation of Packer fans. If you don't wanna realize that, then just wait til this team goes bad again sometime in the future and you'll wish we were in the 90's again.Originally posted by ThunderDanThat's why GB is called Titletown, because of the last 17 years.
What are your standards that make it more of a bump in the road? 10 losing seasons? 20?... sorry I dont stand for losing and theres no reason for it in todays NFL to lose 2 of 4
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So you don't think Brunnel, Brooks, Hasselbeck and Detmer could have won with the 1996 defense?Originally posted by Pacopete4
He no ones dissing the Packers of the old but come on, this team wasn't even on the map anymore before Brett/Holmy/Wolf got here. Ya we had a couple exciting players but the national media coulda gave two shits less about us. Favre and Co. brought this team back to mattering to a lot of people and re-energized a city/state/nation of Packer fans. If you don't wanna realize that, then just wait til this team goes bad again sometime in the future and you'll wish we were in the 90's again.
Look, I loved Favre as a Packer. I would have brought him back in 2008 if the whole thing wouldn't have blown up. But Favre was only one "big" piece of the Packers puzzle.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Originally posted by ThunderDanSo you don't think Brunnel, Brooks, Hasselbeck and Detmer could have won with the 1996 defense?Originally posted by Pacopete4
He no ones dissing the Packers of the old but come on, this team wasn't even on the map anymore before Brett/Holmy/Wolf got here. Ya we had a couple exciting players but the national media coulda gave two shits less about us. Favre and Co. brought this team back to mattering to a lot of people and re-energized a city/state/nation of Packer fans. If you don't wanna realize that, then just wait til this team goes bad again sometime in the future and you'll wish we were in the 90's again.
Look, I loved Favre as a Packer. I would have brought him back in 2008 if the whole thing wouldn't have blown up. But Favre was only one "big" piece of the Packers puzzle.
Kinda the reason I said Favre and Co...... did I not?
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Let's see in the 70s it was a season lifting accomplishment to beat the Bears. That was a successful season in the 70s, seriously. We all new at the beginning of the season there was no way the Packers would compete for the NFL crown or even the playoffs. We weren't as bad as the Lions are today but it was close.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by ThunderDanSince I have basically watched every Packer game from the 70s on, I know a hell of a lot more about sucky Packer teames than you do. Two losing seasons in the last four isn't anything but a bump in the road. The Packers had 4 winning seasons total in the 70s and 80s.Originally posted by Pacopete4He no ones dissing the Packers of the old but come on, this team wasn't even on the map anymore before Brett/Holmy/Wolf got here. Ya we had a couple exciting players but the national media coulda gave two shits less about us. Favre and Co. brought this team back to mattering to a lot of people and re-energized a city/state/nation of Packer fans. If you don't wanna realize that, then just wait til this team goes bad again sometime in the future and you'll wish we were in the 90's again.Originally posted by ThunderDanThat's why GB is called Titletown, because of the last 17 years.
What are your standards that make it more of a bump in the road? 10 losing seasons? 20?... sorry I dont stand for losing and theres no reason for it in todays NFL to lose 2 of 4
There isn't? The team had very little talent or depth four years ago and was cap strapped. We had to let Rivera and Wahle walk because we had no cap room. 2005 was inevitable. We were going to have a bad year to clean house. Last year we had a lot of injuries to key defensive players and we had the most predictable defense in the whole league. We were still very close to a 10-6 season.
I feel TT has done a very good job of turning the team around. He now needs to produce. If we aren't successful in the next two years I'll say it's time to move on. But it took him two years to change the roster and now those guys are maturing. We will see if he was right or wrong.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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I would say Wolf/Holmgreen taught up a lot of good QBs. Brett's amazing durability made them have to produce for other teams. There were calls for Brett's head at the beginning of his career with the Packers.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by ThunderDanSo you don't think Brunnel, Brooks, Hasselbeck and Detmer could have won with the 1996 defense?Originally posted by Pacopete4
He no ones dissing the Packers of the old but come on, this team wasn't even on the map anymore before Brett/Holmy/Wolf got here. Ya we had a couple exciting players but the national media coulda gave two shits less about us. Favre and Co. brought this team back to mattering to a lot of people and re-energized a city/state/nation of Packer fans. If you don't wanna realize that, then just wait til this team goes bad again sometime in the future and you'll wish we were in the 90's again.
Look, I loved Favre as a Packer. I would have brought him back in 2008 if the whole thing wouldn't have blown up. But Favre was only one "big" piece of the Packers puzzle.
Kinda the reason I said Favre and Co...... did I not?But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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LOL- It's like that scene in Ghostbusters when they let all the spooks out of the basement vault in NYC! They start trouble all over the city and run amuck.Originally posted by missionNothing like an argument with Pacopete ...
Can't say I've missed them at all... too bad for the pardons.
Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
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Originally posted by sheepsheadLOL- It's like that scene in Ghostbusters when they let all the spooks out of the basement vault in NYC! They start trouble all over the city and run amuck.Originally posted by missionNothing like an argument with Pacopete ...
Can't say I've missed them at all... too bad for the pardons.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.. I'm not even really arguin here. Why do you guys have to go there? We were talking about how we haven't been called Titletown in 30 years or so. I said Favre and Co (in which I named the 3 big names) brought us back in the 90's. Is that a bad thing to be saying? I mean I know you guys don't like Favre at the moment, but whats wrong with that?
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The thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by sheepsheadLOL- It's like that scene in Ghostbusters when they let all the spooks out of the basement vault in NYC! They start trouble all over the city and run amuck.Originally posted by missionNothing like an argument with Pacopete ...
Can't say I've missed them at all... too bad for the pardons.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.. I'm not even really arguin here. Why do you guys have to go there? We were talking about how we haven't been called Titletown in 30 years or so. I said Favre and Co (in which I named the 3 big names) brought us back in the 90's. Is that a bad thing to be saying? I mean I know you guys don't like Favre at the moment, but whats wrong with that?
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Originally posted by cheesnerThe thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.
Serious? Those 16 years sucked? And because of him we only won one championship? Wow.. I honestly don't even know what to say to you... go back to our winning ways? Of what?.. the 60's? cuz there sure as hell was no winning in the 70's/80's... ridiculous...
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Pssssssst Petey...I think he was joking.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by cheesnerThe thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.
Serious? Those 16 years sucked? And because of him we only won one championship? Wow.. I honestly don't even know what to say to you... go back to our winning ways? Of what?.. the 60's? cuz there sure as hell was no winning in the 70's/80's... ridiculous...Originally posted by 3irty1This is museum quality stupidity.
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Originally posted by ZoolPssssssst Petey...I think he was joking.Originally posted by Pacopete4Originally posted by cheesnerThe thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.
Serious? Those 16 years sucked? And because of him we only won one championship? Wow.. I honestly don't even know what to say to you... go back to our winning ways? Of what?.. the 60's? cuz there sure as hell was no winning in the 70's/80's... ridiculous...
haha, i hope so.. I guess I don't read sarcasm well
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